Saturday, April 10, 2010

What Really Happened in the 1979 Dulce Firefight?

Phil Schneider, supposedly one of three people who survived the 1979 Dulce firefight between the large Greys, US intelligence and military at the Dulce underground base, was found dead on January 1996, due to what was said to be an execution style murder. He was found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped around his neck. According to some sources, it appeared that he repeatedly suffered torture before he was finally killed. You can read his story here - The Mysterious Life and Death of Philip Schneider. There have been numerous questions surrounding Schneider, in particular his motives and state of mind. Seven months prior to his death, he stated the following during a lecture:

"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my schooling was in that field and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico."

"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Greada Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. An insider's account of the treaty meeting is posted here - President Eisenhower's Close Encounter at Holloman AFB. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts."

What was the Dulce firefight...really? From information I have gathered, in 1979, a Grey was giving a lecture to an unknown determined number of scientists. During the lecture, a security officer came into the area with a sidearm on his belt. It was strictly forbidden to carry any weapons of any kind anywhere in the vicinity of the Greys. The security officer was instantly killed by the Grey. Other security personnel, witnessing what was happening in that room on the security cameras, came to retaliate. The Grey, according to the information, allegedly killed everybody. The manner in which the Grey killed these people has not been disclosed but was noted that the cause of deaths were 'head wounds'. The approximate number killed was just over 60 scientists and security.

Because of the nature of the sources, I believe the story to be essentially true though most of the information is third hand. It was, for the most part, an unfortunate accident and was classified as such.

Phil Schneider's interpretation of the event involved him which, from what I have gathered, is not true. Schneider stated in the lecture "...I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that." He tells a very good 'story', but embellishes the facts as is the case in many of his recollections. I'm not saying that he is completely without fact, but it's hard to discern the truth when so much hyperbole is added.

What is the status of Dulce Base today? Your guess is as good as mine but strange activity has been seen and documented over the years. I covered some of the theories here - Dulce Conference Ends / The Dulce Report which includes the full 'UFO Hunters' Dulce investigation episode.

NOTE: the following is an excellent article on underground bases - Underground Bases, Missing Children and Extra-Terrestrials What You Need to Know for Your Future. What are your thoughts on Dulce in particular and underground bases in general?..Lon


What Really Happened in the 1979 Dulce Firefight?


killsing said...

There IS something going on at Dulce. Whether Phil Schneider's story is credible or not is only speculation, maybe time will tell. However the amount of stories from others that I would consider "reliable" are too numerous and detailed to be just a hoax of some kind. I wish the Feds would just come clean about the entire "Alien" thing. They know that everyone knows but they are still relying on a study done by the Rand Group, a think tank that determined from a comprehensive study that the general public simply isn't capable of handling the truth, but, that study was done in the 50's and 60's, way before the newest technology explosion that has made shows like Star Trek obsolete in reality. They should re-examine the studies and I feel that most people not only could handle the truth but would embrace is rather easily. Don't sell your own people short, Mr.President. It is Time to let us all know the facts, without sugar coating it or minimizing it.

JR Hunter said...

The reason governments, the US government in particular have not come clean I'd that it would be bad for business. If we (the human race) suddenly found out that we were no longer alone in the universe, we might stop feuding with each other. This lack of conflict would hurt the elites, whose existence and prosperity is built on conflict

Jack Witas said...

There is no credible evidence of any underground base at Dulce. Just hearsay, and some photos of pipes sticking out of the ground that could have been taken anywhere.

I find it incredible that there are so many " eye witnesses, " books and lectures about an imaginary place and a fictitious event.

But, I suppose the saying is true - " A fool and his money........

Sean Watts said...

Jack, There's another saying that's true as well. "Truth is stranger than fiction." BUT if the truth really is stranger, it must be pretty strange compared to the story that is the Dulce fight. Remember misinformation in order to distract can be just as convincing as, say, L. Ron Hubbard...

roy parker said...

If Phil Schneider was a liar then why was he killed?

TEX Arends said...

ok so i was watching unclosed case files or something like that and it said something bout a firefight between soldiers and im like "WTF" so any way this just confusing me more, so yeah

Steven Piper said...

Phil's story is far too complex to be totally false. He story is a likeness to other stories 30 years earlier, and even decades later. We have numerous people who are unaquainted repeating the same story decades apart. Even Snowden comes out, as well as the Canadian Government. now we have astronauts admitting various parts are true. Sorry, there is Fire from this smoke.

MediaLies2012 said...

You cant kill everyone from speaking the truth. Live free or die trying

Kathy Farler said...

How do you think he lost his fingers if this is all made up?

Michael Icefire said...

I have fought may Forest Fires all around Dulce, and been all over Archuleta Mesa. No openings, no pipes, no roads going into the rock...And the Local Jicarilla folks have never heard explosions of rock blasting, or saw any government vehicles around there...It's just not there...

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