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Apr 16, 2025
Welcome to Phantoms & Monsters 'Personal Reports' - cryptid & unexplained accounts directly from the archives of Phantoms & Monsters, and the Phantoms & Monster Fortean Research team. Narrated by Lon Strickler. Join us in the chat, discuss, and ask me questions about the accounts. Featured in this edition: According to the Diné Navajo people, Skinwalkers are shapeshifting witches who conduct all sorts of terrible things. These beings can make people sick and commit murders. They are graverobbers and necrophiliacs. They are greedy and evil entities who must kill a sibling or other relative to be initiated as a Skinwalker. They supposedly can turn into were-animals and can travel in supernatural ways. I will present several real-life encounters with these malevolent beings! In this episode, I will describe the reports and incidents in detail and answer all questions from the chat room. Chicago / Lake Michigan Winged Humanoid Regional Interactive Map - https://bit.ly/3osR2jL Chicago / Lake Michigan Winged Humanoid / Flying Entity Sightings & Encounters - https://www.phantomsandmonsters.com/p/chicago-phantom-sightings-2011-2017.html Lon Strickler is a Fortean researcher, author, and publisher of the syndicated 'Phantoms and Monsters' blog. He began the blog in 2005, which has steadily grown in popularity and is read daily by tens of thousands of paranormal enthusiasts, investigators, and those seeking the truth. His research and reports have been featured in hundreds of online media sources. Several of these published reports have been presented on various television segments, including The History Channel's 'Ancient Aliens,' Syfy's 'Paranormal Witness', 'Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files,' and Destination America's 'Monsters and Mysteries in America.' He has been interviewed on hundreds of radio & online broadcasts, including multiple guest appearances on 'Coast to Coast AM.' He was also featured on Destination America's 'Monsters and Mysteries in America' television show for 'The Sykesville Monster' episode. Lon has written 9 books and is currently the host of Phantoms & Monsters Radio. Lon was born and raised in south-central Pennsylvania, near the Gettysburg National Military Park and Battlefield. After living in the Baltimore, MD metro area for 40 years, he eventually moved back to his hometown in 2016. Do you have a report or encounter that you would like read on 'Personal Reports' & featured on the Phantoms & Monsters blog? Contact me at lonstrickler@phantomsandmonsters.com
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so tonight we're going to be discussing Skin Walkers
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you know I get questions about Skin Walkers all the time there's there's seems to be some
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question as to what they are people uh I mean a lot of people just don't really
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get the concept of these things you know according to the Danae Navajo people
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and they're in the four corners area um Skin Walkers are shape-shifting witches you conduct all sorts of
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terrible things these uh beans can make people sick and commit murders actually they are grave
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robbers and necrophiliacs they're greedy and he went to these who must kill a sibling or other railers to
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be initiated as a skinwalker they supposedly can turn into weird animals and can travel in Supernatural
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ways an anthropologists of Navajo Nation historic preservation department
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explains Skin Walkers are folks that possess knowledge of medicine medicine
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both practical like Healing The Sick and spiritual maintaining Harmony
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and they are both wrapped together in ways that are nearly impossible to untangle
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now these medicine men train over a period of many years to become full-fledged practitioner in the
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mystical rituals of the Danae Navajo people the medicine men are shown themselves to
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be effective in treating a range of illness according to U.S Public Health Service but there is also a dark side
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witches follow some of the same training of Team similar knowledge as there are
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more benevolent as you know as their more benevolent colleagues but they
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supplement both with the Pursuits of dark arts or black magic
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now um by the name Navajo law a known witch has forfeited its status
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as a human and can be killed at will the assumption is that a witch by
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definition is evil now the cautious the name Navajo people will not speak openly about Skin Walkers
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especially with strangers and because they do you know they do so might invite the attention of an evil witch
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and after all a stranger who asks questions about Skin Walkers just might be one himself looking for their next
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victim now I have been very fortunate
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to become acquainted with many of the people who live on the DNA Navajo
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reservation and that's Northern New Mexico in into Arizona I used to work alongside of um
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J.C Johnson and he lived on the res for a while but you know I got to talk to a lot of
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people over those years and I still get people sending you things it's most of the younger folks
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the older um the older population of the red of the tribe will not talk about it
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for the most part they're just scared and I can understand why you know after you hear some of these accounts I think
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you understand why they are hesitant so the first report
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this is what I received I tried to read about Skin Walkers and or Navajo witches
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whenever I hear of any articles or books about them when I was a little girl traveling my
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family on vacation we came across something strange that had to have been a skinwalker or Navajo which
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it was 1967 or 68 and we were driving from California to Arkansas to visit
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family the only way to Arkansas we're on Route 66 outside Albuquerque New Mexico
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and we had stopped at a rest area so my dad could sleep
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it doesn't happen often now but back then a lot of people used to stop and sleep in rest areas
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it was the middle of the night and something startled my father away he woke up and it was extremely scared
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nervous he was trying to figure out why he woke up and why he felt scared when he saw a
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man crossing the desert he said that he almost couldn't take his eyes off the guy even I mean because
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even though the man was kind of far out there something was wrong man was walking towards the rest area
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from out in the desert as he got closer my father saw what was different about him
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the man had a first skin thrown over his shoulders as he walked his feet were not
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touching the ground he passed right beside our car and looked my dad in the eyes
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my dad said that all the hair on his body stood up he immediately started a
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car and Drew a boy as fast as he could it was later that we found that to some
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crazy guy came into the same rest area the very same night that we were there
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and shot a bunch of people from what I was told some of the people were killed I was a little girl three or
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four years old I was asleep and it all happened but we never stopped in New
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Mexico after that every year we went to Arkansas to visit family and we never stopped in New
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Mexico again we always drove spread through and that that lady's name was
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Nina now she wasn't now she wasn't a member of the tribe she was just someone traveling through it
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so um the next account came from a man who's with friends on a Mesa outside of
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Albuquerque New Mexico when he encounters a coyote that stands on its back legs and seems
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to transform into a strange form into a native man now this account actually came from J.C
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Johnson's files and he said he gave it to me in 2004 I was out with some friends on
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the Mesa outside of Albuquerque New Mexico half of the group wandered off to sneak
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up at a party and scare them so I was left with my friend's girlfriend
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I didn't know her that well at the time so we were standing around walk overly
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not talking when we both heard footsteps about 50 foot away there was no light out there so I could
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see what was making them and she practiced practically blind I sneak off and around to try to see
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what it is I get close enough probably 20 foot and I see a coyote walking
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I said oh or something to that effect quietly and it looked over at me
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this is weird because as far as I know coyotes traveling packs tend to avoid
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humans and have huge ears which wouldn't allow me to sneak up on one
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it starts walking off and this is when the strangest thing happened it appeared very fluidly and naturally
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to stand up on its hind legs for a couple seconds it looked very much like a middle-aged native
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it walked down into the shallow Ravine and I couldn't see it anymore
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a whole butt back to the cars and told her to get in and lock the door
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then I left to go find my friend I just told him I saw someone he looked
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around and couldn't find any tracks I was very confused at that point later I started telling one of my close
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friends about it and before I finished she jumped in and said sounds like a skin walker
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I've tried doing research on skinwalkers it was very hard to find information apparently it's a type of Navajo black
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magic where the shaman can move his Spirit to other places and manifest himself as an animal that may or may not
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be his choosing they work outside of the mainstream religion and tend to sell their services
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I can't find any more info any more info beyond that
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so I I another report I lived close to the reservation just
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outside Mesa Arizona to have a couple native friends who I just recently went camping with around
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20 miles outside the valley to a place they call three poles this place is considered Holy Land in
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their eyes is close to a river there are numerous stories that I know about this place such as a flute player
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you can hear at night or the boulder-sized splashes you hear in the river but the most notable are
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the stories of the skinwalkers we arrived at the camping site around 9pm it was already dark so we started to
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unpack and make a farm once that was done my native buddies put up the barriers and puffed the smoke of
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tobacco upon us as a personal barrier they told me never go anywhere alone and
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at around 8 30 a.m is when the spirits are most active around 2 A.M the beating of a drum
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became very clear this is a sign of a skin walker they told me
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at around 3 A.M the smell of wet dogs became apparent this is a sign of either two things
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hoofy which is considered an extremely evil spirit on the skinwalkers
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the fire grew small and we could see the shadows of animals we all decided to move to another site
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in the morning as the first light Dawn we packed I sat in the back of his truck
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to hold down the stuff as we left I saw a Rottweiler walking on its hind leg
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straight in the middle of our camp it was easily five feet tall it had
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bright orange eyes freaked out and screamed as it was running at us still standing up it
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disappeared into a bush after we turned the corner later on at her other Camp an old man
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with his face covered by hair visited us and acted very strangely
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they ran we ran out of drinks so a friend and I decided to head out on on
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foot no car A friend had to take it home we saw a car as we it approached it
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slowed down to a halt and the same man asked if we wanted to ride we said no because by this time my
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friends had told me the man was a skin walker he grabbed my arm and pulled me by his
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car and looked straight at me as my friend ran up to grab me the man took
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off in his car once we got back I relaxed it was around Dawn went just behind me the man
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appeared about 10 foot away and asked if I could help him with something back at
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his camp as he did two trucks came around the corner to head further into the grounds
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we watched them as they passed and then all of a sudden he bolted after them I was a stylist to see the 60 year old
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man chasing down a car my native friends put up his salt barrier
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I heard sounds all night but never saw anything after that
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so this other um this other account comes from me a ute native
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um a young guy up in Utah and as far as a skin walker
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Legends or the skinwalker police go it's it
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several tribes believe in the Utes the Hopi
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um other Pueblo tribes like like the Navajo but anyway
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this uh this You Youth was said he was attacked by a winged humanoid wolf near
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Skinwalker Ranch now Salt Lake City Utah color to Coast
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to Coast AM named John recalls a harrowing encounter an attack by a
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winged humanoid wolf near the Skinwalker Ranch I've got a very unbelievable story to
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tell you I don't know if you're familiar with the Skinwalker Ranch over here in Utah I have a close reality that's pretty
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much the UFO guy in that area he's been telling me these stories ever
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since I was a little kid and I've been after that rant several times and I was out there in the spring
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of 2013 but and nothing happened now we went around the ranch areas and
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nothing happened we went home and on a Saturday night something did happen which I later found
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out through my UFO relative there were some native kids driving in a
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tall truck about eight feet high and they went up to the gate of the UFO
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of this UFO Ranch they said that they saw an orb of light appearing in the window off or above the
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gate and I guess they turned on their lights or they turned on the edge and because
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they got scared that it had an even brighter light and
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it went over the truck and these kids well something hit their truck
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these kids got scared so they went down the road on the main road and it got out which is I'm guessing
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about three quarters of a mile they got out to look at the Damage Done
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to the truck and for some reason the driver decided to be the passenger and then the passenger was a driver
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apparently there were some girls with them in this truck well once they got back to the truck
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this is where it gets very unbelievable a creature grabbed his kid this kid who
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was the driver and now the passenger and pulled him out of the truck it threw him around like a ragdoll bit
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him in the butt several times and clawed him long story short somehow this kid got
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back in the truck and one of the kids took a picture of this creature now no image was provided
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that they got scared they were able to get back in the truck drove down the road and talked to the
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youth Indian police about it uh
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and the the Indian police say that there's nothing they can do about it because they're very aware of the
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Skinwalker Ranch so the next day which would be Sunday they contacted my UFO relative
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and he went down there to investigate meanwhile there was a Shaman's wife and the shaman
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was there blessing the kids that were involved in this and my UFO routers said
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he saw the picture on his cell phone of this creature he also saw the Damage Done to the truck
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there was also a scratch on the truck and it spelled d-i-e-di
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and he also saw the Damage Done to this kid in the bite marks now this was very unbelievable for me to
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hear the crazy thing about it is a few months ago I work at a hospital and one of my
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patients was the Shaman's wife she was the one that was also there at
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the time when my relative was there to investigate she told me exactly what my relatives
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said but in Greater detail the creature that she described in my relatives said had to be a tall creature
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because he would hold his kid out of the because he would he held this kid out
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from he pulled it out from the window of the truck that's an eight foot tall truck and this
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creature had horns it had red hair it also had a human-like face but the mouth
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was distorted and it came out kind of like a wolf it had Claws and wings
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so my question to you and I asked my UFO relative is this a skin walker and he
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goes no this is something totally different and I asked also the Shaman's wife and
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she agreed that this is something totally different so
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I don't know what that was I tend to believe it may have been a skin walker I I don't know but since the
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Shaman's wife said it was and I had to take her word for it so um I don't know what that was but
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that's an interesting story I actually reposted that story recently on the blog
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so uh the next account it was about a Navajo medicine man and
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he was chasing a skin walker now one encounter that this medicine man
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who I'll referred to as LC remembers happened in the Heartland regions of Navajo Nations specifically the name
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Beto Arizona and elderly man spent a week hurting his
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livestock to the winter property when he fought when he finally returned
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home in the day he found his wife had not prepared their wagons with their belongings but seeing her rifle and
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horse were gone he thought she must have been getting supplies or going to visit other nearby relatives they know in the
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rural region now times back in the day Navajo kept busy all day much like
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ranchers and Farmers they were always cautious of strangers in Burger lot burglarizing and ransacking a property
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was common but low land tracking was very common skilled
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before it wasn't uh he then noticed nothing was Disturbed
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or out of the ordinary for for them but he had a feeling his wife went to a nearby friends now his gut feeling was
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right and he found out that his wife was there but he also asked why she left their
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place with their valuables and wagons unguarded she told him the following
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one of the goats came back and only stood in One Direction with a sticking hand she attempted to
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snap it out of whatever trance it was in it screamed and dropped dead
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she she thought it could be ailments or termites in a torn eating away at its
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brain she didn't want to waste whatever was salvageable she butchered the goat and
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hung its wool skin to dry in the Sun she placed the still intact head looks good in the back of one of the wagons
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now she went about finishing her chores to pack the wagon she heard her rattling
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outside thinking it was a rattlesnake when the property she went to find out
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but came to notice the sheepskin was gone thinking that someone was on the
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property and trying to rob them she went into the Hogan to get her rifle
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gun at the ready she didn't get far before noticing that the Ghost Skin was dragging on the ground
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thinking was animals instead she followed the dragging Trail it kept an eye out for an animal in the
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distance instead she noticed not forehead the skin hide it was dragging itself
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Gliding Over the ground she shot at it more than several times but it kept going towards some washes in
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the land with Hillary Terrain unsure what she had seen she decided not
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to stay the night and left to go to the neighbors hearing this the husband had her and the
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neighbors go find the local Medicine Man common in the area would it be a couple days
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returning with the utterly Medicine Man three men accompany him the wife then showed them where she
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stopped following the skin and they went on from there unable to accompany them the husband and
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wife kept the bonfire going all night as a waypoint for them to see in the night
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sky late into the first night one man came back and asked if they could spare a
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horse as one of theirs had fallen into a ditch and severely injured itself so they had to shoot it
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agreeing that they let him take the husband's horse as it was the it was fast and knew the area
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the next day no sign of them returning happened then night came
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they built the bonfire again so they would be able to see if they were near
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not long after another one of the men came back and asked if they could spare another horse but green thinking
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something again happened to their horse they took the wagon horse later into the night the the final third
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man of the group came to the house and asked if they had another horse they could spare
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anxious about an update the husband asked if they had found the goat skin not saying anything else the third man
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asked again if he can have they had another horse to spare the husband agreed but only if he could
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check on his other horses so the third man agreed and they rode into the night
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coming upon a ridge in the night lightened up by the full moon the third man rude to the sound of a sweat lodge
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ceremony by the medicine man and the two other men were conducting coming upon the sweat lodge
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he resp he respected the strict custom around the medicine man in the middle of the ceremonies so he stayed silent
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um it's custom among the novel culture to be silent during a ceremony so not to
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break the concentration of the medicine man and a third man told the husband not to
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investigate do open sweat lodge doorway not to open the sweat lodge doorway he had to keep the glowing dim and lava
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rocks hot and not look back into the sweat lodge Direction until they were done
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he sat there with a low dim fire and kept the Rocks hot listening to the Channing
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then he noticed the blurry white Mass out into the distance below though
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ambient light came from it only a white Mass like someone wearing all white in the
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Moonlight it was a topic the cliff looking down below to the barren flat desert and
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washes he saw it starting left and right going into washes and coming out going
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hundreds of feet in no pattern faster than a horse can run and way faster than anyone else anyone could run
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themselves Twilight was coming up in the white Mass disappeared into a wash to his right and
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never came back out he observed everywhere below to see
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where it was and still listened to the song of the medicine man and his assistant as they were singing
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he could hear the heavy footsteps of his wife's horse he he did as he was told and didn't turn
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around once to check on the horse but then the heavy horse studs that gotten
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closer to him in a rhythm of two like someone walking and he was on a high alert to turn
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around he felt a hard clutch on his shoulder he screamed and cried out in agony yelling
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and was ready to fight whatever it was in the night but it was just the old medicine man the
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husband was frightened by feeling such a strong heavy presence the old man asked what he was doing far
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out away from his own confused he said he came along with one of the old man's
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assistant to check on his horses but instead he made him the fire watcher
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the old man with concerns said that he had seen the goat skin and they were chasing it into washes to trap it in the
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high sand walls but he had killed two of his men the first night
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when they entered the wash by collapsing the side walls when he got close to the
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goat skin on the ground he and his last assistant went on to trap it in the Cliffside during the next
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day but couldn't get to the top of the cliff to where it was at so he went ahead and his last assistant
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stayed where it was last seen below he went along and around the cliffsides
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to find a trail up but that took most of the day and he came upon the husband
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he followed the smell of a dead animal and saw scattered flesh and blood then her drumming ceremony in the night
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he couldn't tell where it was was until the sky lightened up the early morning coming then he finally saw him there
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sitting near the edge of the cliff thinking he was being tricked the husband opened the makeshift sweat lodge
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doorway looking inside he could see that it was made of his horse's bones and not wood
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and there lying on the opposite side of the door he saw the good skin the medicine man took the skin and they
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burned down the sweat lodge to ashes in the bonfire the husband asked how a skin could do
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all that the old medicine man explained that something else in the night came from the goat skin on the second night
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they thought it was him the husband coming out to find him but it wasn't they drove to the sounds of heavy
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galloping and dark flashes of something in the Moonlight on the nights they hunted it
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like a predator like Predator animals and tried luring into the washes or caves in the wash but sacrificing one of
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the horses to collapse at the side the high sand walls but to new avail
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returning to the husband's house the wife told them that where she had put
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the carcass to the goat it was gone and couldn't find tracks when the time came to go to their winter
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property they never returned to the original property time passed the land
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turned into sand dunes and the Hogan with no upkeep fell aparted with years
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and when it finally collapsed in they never rebuilt it now that story
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that story was told to me by a an actual uh Elder of the Navajo
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so um is it true I I kissed me very well be but it's pretty wild story
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so the last the last post is as follows so if you have questions
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you can start posting them a young Navajo man who grew up on the reservation in New Mexico the closest
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family's tragic history at the hands of NATO witches and in turn Skin Walkers
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I live in Gallup New Mexico and I'm a 21 year old Navajo I have a family that lives on a plot of land south of Gallup
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it's about a 30 minute drive to my family's land and surprisingly not deep in the woods
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I remember first being near a witch when I was about seven I was at my uncle's house our land has
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three homes on it he my mother and his girlfriend were drinking
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and my uncle went to relieve himself out the front door I remember he freaked out and said that there was a skin walker
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outside I freaked out and his girlfriend said it was okay it was just Scooby-Doo to
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lessen my fears since it's been so long I remember those important details only
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after that I had no memory of what happened that uncle died that year always think
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about what could have been between me and him now that I feel so alone and my
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remaining family isn't as cool as he was with me anyway to be clear I never have
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seen a witch but these details are unfortunately true jump forward a couple years and I'm in
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eighth grade my grandpa who lived with my mom and I is in the hospital
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I end up sleeping in his room because I always slept on my mother's floor due to being creeped out by the thought of a
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witch trying to peer inside my window or hearing the noises it can make
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I wanted to sleep in there because he has a he has Cable in his room his room
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is on the opposite end of the trail where my mom slept it's about 5 a.m and I wake up to the
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most terrifying language I've ever heard it sounded like cross between a hyena and a pig
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the caution Chit Chat between whatever was outside my grandpa's window haunting me in that instance I listened for a
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couple seconds but I covered my ears as hard as I could out of pure Terror it was the most scared I've ever been
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heck of the ordeal I went to my mom's room and crawled inside her bed telling her what happened and shaking a bit
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I had school that morning so when we went to start the car I noticed the in the area where I had heard the noise
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there was a trailer hitch and sitting in it was a stray dog
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my grandma hired a medicine man before or after that happened and he said that
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the dog was in cahoots with the witches I tried to get rid of him but that dog
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always came back it was skinny and skittish it always had a bad I always
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had a bad Vibe about that dog which doesn't happen which doesn't happen as I
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love dogs but after that encountered I was truly scared of being alone a year later during my freshman year in
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high school my mom died you know whether or not those jealous witches contributed to her debt I'll ponder occasionally she
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died from a bad cold and mucus in her lungs I was asleep in a room but not on her bed
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I went to bed about 10 p.m and in the morning she was very weak and cold
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like she was hallucinating it didn't get under the blankets to keep warm when I woke up she was dead and sitting in
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front of her bed that date changed my life completely as
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I never stated to house regular since she died I am staying with my dad now in town and
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my grandpa said our family may be an active Target of those evil witches
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he said once in the 90s when my uncles and their friends were at my grandma's land they see a fire in a witch doing a
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dance ritual on top of the Mesa they begin to shoot at it it sees them and they take off when
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their girlfriends freak out they leave and that witch chases them out from wherever they are
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keep in mind this area has a lot of trees and it isn't Barren and flat like most of the Navajo Nation
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my grandpa inferred that the witch filed my uncles back to where my family to my family's lamb now my family in the evil
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history of the area they settled in is real I wouldn't type all this if it weren't
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true I don't like fake paranormal stories and you wouldn't you wouldn't either
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paranormal was just a footstep away after all the damages witches had done
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no one wants to talk about it or do anything about them what is there to do it's been six years
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now since my mom died and each day is a day I inch further away from my small
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memories of her so folks that's it I mean I've got all
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the stories as well I've um you know I I probably get hundreds of
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them and I may actually do some more later down the road
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so let me dig through here and see what we've got question wise
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shorter cook Juan are there stories that the
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skinwalker on the Skinwalker Ranch being trapped there and not able to leave
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do you know the the whole the lore of the the lore of the skin
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walker Ranch is the following apparently
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the Navajo people lived up in that area of Utah which is the Northwest area Northeast area of the state
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and uh they were actually run out of there I mean from what is told they were
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run out of there by the Utes and before they left they supposedly cursed the land
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and when they curse the land they are said to let the skinwalker there now
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is that true I don't know that's the lore that's you know that's the whole
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that's the whole story about how it became called the Skinwalker Ranch or that area around there but but you know
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that area where the ranch is there's a lot that there's a lot that
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goes on around there I had a couple stories surrounding that area
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from uh from other native people um
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a lot of ghost stories a lot of different uh entities seen not
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necessarily what they talk about Skinwalker Ranch with the UFOs and you
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know the uh supposed uh cryptic canines associated with it
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but there's a lot there's a lot of stories about it I I may go back and dig
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a lot of that out at some point uh Nancy Malcolm how and who can kill a
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skinwalker well that's a big question I I don't know be
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honest with you I um I guess it's got to be done ritual by
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using your specific ritual uh from what I understand
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it the the best the best way to do this is just to stay away from it and not
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talk about it um you know as far as a skin walker being killed
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I don't I don't really know much about that I haven't really heard anything about that
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um I I the only thing I have heard and JC told me this that
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in the tribe when they do suspect a skin walker now this is probably many years
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many many many years ago but when they do they do believe there's a skinwalker a
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witch who's become a skin walker uh they will condemn it to death and they
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will kill it now is I mean how do you kill it I don't know did they just shoot it kill it hang
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it whatever I don't know how is a skinwalker killed I just there
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again I I don't know I don't know how they do it you know if if I was uh part of the tribe maybe I
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would get some inclination but quite frankly no one's ever told me anything about that
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you know I I think most most of the stories I have gotten from
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about the Skin Walkers come from younger folks and it's mostly stories that they have heard from the relatives
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but as far as killing a skin walker I don't think I've ever been told anything
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Bernadette have there been any reports of Skin Walkers in Pennsylvania or they just seen found in certain parts of the
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country you know you hear a lot of stories about people thinking they see Skin Walkers in other areas
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just don't believe that's true I I think they just mistake it was something else um
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I I you know most most of the stories or most of the accounts that I heard that I
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believe are verifiable were are in the uh southwestern part of the country uh in
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around the reservations or even up further north in the youth area um
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but the four corners and that includes Colorado and um in Utah
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um I mean that's for most of it most of the lures actually known
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Nancy Malcolm is there any records to indicated the number of skin workers are increasing
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I I don't know anything about that I really don't you know I uh
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I I have read a lot of accounts people have sent me who are on the roads people
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I know that are on the reservation uh most of the stories I hear are mostly
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accounts I hear are older accounts but every once in a while you will hear something about
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um someone seeing one on a highway that's running beside a car these things have these apparent ability
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to run alongside of a car uh that they're that fast
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um there's a few other instances but as far as um actual accounts coming from from uh
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reservation uh residents you know you just don't
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really hear a whole lot about it it they do keep it pretty quiet I mean when you do get an account first
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of all you got to figure out where it comes from first uh because you do have to follow up on it
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and I have followed up on all these you know when it comes to me I follow up
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with the person itself to make sure it's actually coming from someone who's Native American so
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long yep that's the only answer I can give you on that
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Bernadette what is the difference between Skin Walkers and shape shifters well
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all in all maybe not differently but I I it has to do with the actual
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uh the actual occult or um whatever their beliefs are
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you know Shape Shifters that's not an occult thing for the most
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part that's a paranormal Supernatural natural thing and now I'm not saying
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that the skinwalkers aren't paranormal are Supernatural in fact they probably are
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but it's just different I mean we talk about shape shifters in all all types of
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pre-texes I mean you know uh but as far as what goes on with the Skin
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Walkers it's somewhat different there's uh there's there seems to be more
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malevolency well there is malevolency behind it I mean these Skin Walkers as a red beginning aren't good
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uh they they have uh they have an agenda and um
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uh they you know they're out to either hurt someone or to cause issues
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as opposed to just seeing a shape-shifting type of being
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can Squatch is it true Skin Walkers won't enter a home unless invited that's
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what I've been told that is exactly what I have been told and I do have some stories that do cover
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that so maybe down the road I'll um I'll I'll talk about those as well
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