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RISSA MILLER - YORKTOWNE HOTEL INVESTIGATION in YORK, PA w/ LON STRICKLER - (LIVE CHAT - Q & A)
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Dec 14, 2024
Rissa Miller is an editor, author, herbalist, seer, and storyteller. Her storytelling expertise stems from extensive research into the area of esoteric history, including ghosts, witchcraft, cryptids, and folklore. Rissa believes the most enduring stories teach us not only about humanity's past but also give us a reason to reflect on our own present beliefs and realities. Her approach to the paranormal involves in-depth historical research layered with first-hand accounts. Inspired by her first ghost experience in York, England at age 8 (it happened after a tour!), Rissa Miller became a history guide when she was 15. Her first gig was with at the Colonial Complex, still operated by the York County History Center. She went on to study at New York University's Tisch School and was an award-winning editor at the Baltimore Sun early in her career. Rissa is also a member of the Phantoms & Monsters Fortean Research team. On Wednesday, July 10, 2024, Rissa Miller & Lon Strickler conducted an on-site investigation at the recently renovated Yorktowne Hotel (Hilton Hotels) at 48 E. Market St. in York, PA. Welcome to Phantoms & Monsters Radio - Real cryptid and unexplained reports directly from the archives of Phantoms & Monsters, and the Phantoms & Monsters Fortean Research team. Join us in the chat, discuss, and ask my guest and me questions about the investigation. Hi. My name is Lon Strickler. I hope that you enjoy listening to Phantoms & Monsters Personal Reports. I have a question for you. Have you ever had an unexplained sighting or encounter? Do you have photographic and/or video evidence of your experience? Would you like to share your unique story with our readers and listeners? Please feel free to forward your account to me, either through my email lonstrickler@phantomsandmonsters.com or call me at 410-241-5974. You can also visit my website at https://www.phantomsandmonsters.com and use the contact link on the homepage. Your personal information will be kept confidential if requested. I have been a paranormal and anomalies researcher & investigator for over 45 years. My reports & findings have been featured in hundreds of online media sources. Several of these published reports have been presented on various television segments, including The History Channel's 'Ancient Aliens,' Syfy's 'Paranormal Witness', 'Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files,' Destination America's 'Monsters and Mysteries in America,' and, more recently, 'Unsolved Mysteries' on Netflix. I have been interviewed on hundreds of radio & online broadcasts, including multiple guest appearances on 'Coast to Coast AM.' One of my encounters was featured on Destination America's 'Monsters and Mysteries in America' television show for 'The Sykesville Monster' episode. I am a published author of 9 books on various cryptid & supernatural subjects. In addition, I am an intuitive who has worked with hundreds of clients who sought help with their personal hauntings and unexplained activities. I never charge for my services. If you feel that I can help answer your questions, please feel free to contact me. Thanks for your consideration.
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hey folks good evening and thanks for joining me on phants of monsters radio I
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welcome all new listeners and members to the channel as well as first timers in the
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chat now my guest tonight is Rissa Miller she's an editor author herbalist
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Seer and story story tell her storytelling expertise stems from extensive research into the era of
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esoteric history including ghost witchcraft Cryptids and folklore now Arisa believes the most
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enduring stories teach us not only about Humanity's past but also give reasons to
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reflect on our own present beliefs and realities our approach to the Paranormal
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involves in-depth historical research layered with firsthand accounts now now inspired by her first
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ghost experience in York England at age8 and it happened after a tour Rissa
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Miller became a history guide when she was 15 her first gig was with at or the
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colonial complex still operated by York County History uh Center she went on to
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study at New York University's Tish school and was an award-winning editor at baltim at the Baltimore Sun earlier
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in her career so let's go ahead and get started and we'll be talking
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and you have a question please use all caps and I'll try to get to each of these uh after my
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presentation so my guest tonight is Rissa Miller and I just read the bio hi
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Risa how are you doing this evening hi Lon I'm doing very well thanks uh thanks for having me
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on yeah I wanted to get you on uh you know I I had mentioned a lot of this
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investigation at the Yorktown hotel to people who um riggers on the team and
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and as far as um in Facebook and other social media platforms so there were a lot of people
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interested even a lot of local people that are interested in this uh in this investigation so we're going to put you on the spot tonight and let you tell us
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a bit about the Yorktown hotel why you were there how you and I got together
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and did this investigation that sounds great so I'll I'll start at the beginning so the
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Yorktown hotel is a absolutely beautiful Landmark Hotel in York Pennsylvania in
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1925 the folks of York City decided that they wanted a grand hotel and the City of
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York was like sorry we don't have money for a Grand Hotel and uh as it turned
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out the community crowdsourced the money to create the Yorktown hotel uh back
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then it was the hotel Yorktown but either way uh basically that means that the community found their own in 1925 uh
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$1.75 million to build this it's stunning Grand hotel now why did they
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want it because Lancaster and Harrisburg both had Grand hotels and they could host conventions and York wanted to be
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able to host conventions as well so that they could bring Commerce into the city
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it's very practical and uh you had to have a grand hotel to do that so they built the grandest hotel that still
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exists in New York today and it was the tallest building in the city for most of
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its life I think if you include the flag po it is still the tallest building in New York city so that said um you know
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just as a quirky side note because there's so many quirky things about the York toown um there uh was a goat
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awarded a Taxidermy goat awarded to the crowdsourcing team that raised the most
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money back in 1925 and if you are local to the region of York PA or if you want to travel to York PA you can still see
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this Taxidermy pygmy goat in the Yorktown um it was lost to history for a
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little while but it was refound and placed in the lobby bar of the current Yorktown hotel during the last
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renovation so uh you can still see the pygmy goat sitting there uh smiling down on you while you enjoy your breakfast or
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cocktail so all of that said um the hotel has hosted um many many dozens of
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celebrities politicians sport Stars musicians uh it has been an
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absolutely uh a a beautiful success story for this small City and of course
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as all old hotels do it does have many stories of hauntings in fact it has
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hauntings that are kind of affectionately known by the staff um
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which is kind of a funny thing to say because you know when I say haunting most people think scary um that's not
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really true at the Yorktown um their oldest one no I'm sorry one of their oldest ghosts there uh it was called the
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spirit of hospitality because people liked seeing and experiencing him so much it was considered lucky when he
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would appear um it's probably not lucky for him uh that he ended up there but um
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it was his home he did live there so um I'm getting sidetracked let me finish answering your questions Lon um how did
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I end up there so after the pandemic I ended well I already knew the ytown hotel I was born and raised in
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Pennsylvania and um I knew of the story of the ghost of hospit the spirit of hospitality rather uh as a kid and um I
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moved away and I came back in 2020 uh during the pandemic and um 2022 I
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decided to start my own ghost tours in downtown York so of course I had to you
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know in addition to finding stories and finding firsthand accounts and doing many many many days and hours of
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research on buildings um I had to include the YK town because it was a just absolutely classic story uh it
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wasn't even open yet when I started my ghost tours uh it underwent a massive renovation for several years um and it
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only reopened I believe New Year's Eve of 2023 so um that it was it was close
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while while I was initially doing the first of the ghost tours yes there it is the absolute
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gorgeous Jewel of downtown York um if like I said if anybody is local and you
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can get there you can walk through the lobby any old day just walk right into the lobby you know have a cup of coffee
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look around it's definitely a a fantastic site to experience so and you know you can even
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have a ghost experience right there in the lobby and I'm not even kidding so
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um that said um the staff of the hotel has been absolutely fantastic in
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supporting my ghost horse and uh they've been incredibly um how do I say encouraging
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and when the renovation happened and they reopened the current general manager said that uh people who had
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worked there before and who knew the spirit of hospitality wanted to know where he was apparently he hasn't been
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around as much um and uh you know Finding and retrieving missing ghosts is
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is not actually part of my usual job but um they miss him they basically want to
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know did he hate the renovation did he leave like what was the story behind the
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missing uh spirit on the eighth floor so um Lon and I actually met through uh
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Beck Lawrence um isn't that right I think so you knew
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Beck somehow and I was in her one day yeah yep you were store and uh she
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mentioned some program I think I had done there or something I was doing and we met online for the first time and it
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turned out we already both knew a lot of the same people so um yes it's it's ironic because you lived and worked in
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the elica city area for so long and I have worked there for I worked there for
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so long as well and AR paths never crossed um I was in fact a ghost tour guide there I still am I still work at
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the Museum in Howard County um and do presentations and research for them as well so all of that said um I wanted
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someone who I knew would do a fantastic job with a with an important building
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like the Yorktown hotel and I reached out to you to come with me to do the research on the space I you know I
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didn't want to just do it by myself I really wanted somebody with years of expertise to come into such an important
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old building in the city and uh on July 10th we we went and uh we explored every
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single floor we stopped every in every nook and cranny of the Yorktown hotel um
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and the Yorktown was great in supporting us through the entire process they connected us with their historian and uh
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she gave tons of data and other reports um I also use newspapers.com to try to
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verify and find obituaries and things like that as part of the research
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so um did I finally answer your whole question yeah you did
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well um you know yeah that was Wednesday July 10th this year that we we met up um
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where we did the on-site investigation and um you know it's funny because I I
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was born and raised here in Haner which is what 16 miles just west of York yes
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and I had never been to the hotel and I've been to York a lot over the years and of course even when I lived down in
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Baltimore and I was up here a lot too so uh but I had never been there and of
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course when you mentioned that it had been renovated and you you know I found out you were doing all these tours and
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such and um uh when you gave me the opportunity ask me to to help you or come in there
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and do the investigation I was more than willing to do so and uh you know I had you know it's it
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was nice and I I tell you I I was very impressed with you I I and what you you
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know your research and everything that you were all about and um I wanted to do
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this right so I contacted uh my colleague my friend
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Delise cook who is in the chat tonight uh she has a remote viewing team the B
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Beyond Horizon's remote viewing and I gave them the task of actually conducting the remote view
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session and I gave her the Target and uh she went through it and she did the you
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know her and her team did the reports sent them to me and I tell you I I
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thought that it really really gave a good perspective of what was going on
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there put us in the right frame of mind I I absolutely agree I think the
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thing that stuck out to me immediately because I had been in New Yorktown many times was the drawing uh from the
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rooftop and I recognized it immediately and I know that you can't see it from
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the ground and it's not an easy thing to get a photograph of even from the top so
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um the minute I saw it I was like yep that's the spot um even when uh there
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were descriptions of the curtains and um some of the other details of the rooms
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when we were in there and some of the rooms were open we saw them we saw the curtains we saw these exact details
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exactly as that team described them so um that was kind of uh phenomenal and
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really verifying yeah she did um she did a separate RV of the the location she
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started out with the roof and the bastrd around the the roof was exactly the same
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design that was there so she picked up one it well and other thing she was telling me and she even
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identified an an energy yes did met us when we got to the top floor indeed so
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you know the way I found out about Jane was um from the staff of the hotel and
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I'm still getting fascinating reports about Jane that you haven't even heard yet because yeah Jane um is a very busy
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uh Spirit uh resident of the Yorktown so you know I think the first thing to note about Jane is that she didn't die at the
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hotel um she's a walk-in and I she's
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very she has a very young playful energy and uh Jane met us in the the rooftop
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Lounge which uh the whole top floor of the Yorktown was um was originally an
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apartment for the general manager to live in but during the last renovation they switched it and made it into a bar
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that has both an indoor and an outdoor component it actually has a whole separate menu from the other bars um so
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it's kind of cool it's really its own unique entity and uh Jane apparently loves it I mean also the whole Community
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seems to really love it as well so I mean what not to love it's a bar on a rooftop on the highest rooftop in the
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city you has the amazing views it's absolutely gorgeous to be up there looking down onto Old downtown New York
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so that said um yes she immediately identified Jane who at that point I
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didn't have a name on but several of the staff members had reported uh some very
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curious activity um including uh a spirit that rang themselves out for 1,000
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Pepsis and um um I was like I guess they were
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thirsty I don't know but um and then did things like moving blls in the kitchen
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when the chef was trying to Plate soup or um glasses shattering and in the bars
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um they the Yorktown did everything to investigate these as best they could
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they called the manufacturers of the Bulls and the glasses to see like are is there some technical problem with these
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things um they they checked into all of those aspects and there were no problems
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um all they could keep coming back to is what is this ghost doing to to us in the
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hotel um I think one of my other uh stories collected about that had to was definitely it has Jane signature all
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over it uh was turning off all of the lights in the downstairs and there are lights on many different electrical
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switches down there it's not all on one switch uh but it all went off all at one time there was no blackout there was
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nothing else going on um I guess Jane just wanted to make herself known that
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um you know she was there well that doesn't surprise me because her energy she was very
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persistent with us I mean as asistent as soon as we got on the elevator I I guess
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we spent a half hour or so up there and uh the the bar itself is on Wheels and I
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think he went to the restroom and I came back and I saw that bar move and
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um you know it it was and you know we were sensing her the whole time we were I I sensed her as soon as I walked out
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of out of the elevator so I also had an EMF meter I don't know if you remember and um it was going off like crazy not
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just around like the electronics or anything but it was going it was definitely hit
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and um she didn't she never did show up though on my visual imaging software
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just the EMF meter for her so when we um we got off the top
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floor and uh we got on the elevator we went down to the next floor yes and
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um it it it was it was it was interesting because I and I didn't really expect her to follow us down
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there quite Frank with you but um you know uh let's
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see I'm I'm looking at my notes Here
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Yeah I I I think we were we went on the eighth we went on the eighth floor you talked about um a Mr Abrams and the
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cigar because you and I both picked up on that cigar odor when we were walking
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and look the the hotel the hotel floors they're set up like like a a
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venerable Hotel H Hotel floor plan you know you got one long hallway that
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goes uh past all the rooms and you go into a shorter one and that's about it
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until you get into the areas where you get into the um on the elevator but the
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floor plans are all the same on all the floors until you get down to um you know to the hospitality floors or into the uh
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the ball room or into the the lobby but uh it's it it it really has a
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lot of energy to it and um you know I I picked up on several things you know it
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was like that odor of burning wood like there was there may have been something to do with a fire I was feeling portal
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activity on descending floors and I think Jane was using this portal to move
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back up and down from floor to floor I I can't be positive of that but uh you
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know one thing that that that theise had mentioned to me uh and you read and she
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had it in the report was you know we we did kind of feel a
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heightened sense of the past while we were there and and you know Delise had mentioned in her report that the number
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507 was significant to Jane and she had named Jane and um you know I believe then it
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would probably referred to a room number so but I mean you know I'm I'm skipping
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on things if there's something you want to add in there go ahead well I can always Circle back um if you I'm happy
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to talk more about um the cigar salesman and his story too yeah go ahead and talk about that
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since that was on the eighth floor we had okay so yeah I think one of the things that struck me is when I we got
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to the eighth floor and I could smell the cigar smoke it first of all I was I was so happy to know that he was there
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that I could report back to the hotel staff that their famous ghost that he had not indeed left during the
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renovation um that for whatever reason the day that we were there he decided to show up um I I don't know if he was
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expecting us or I I don't know but he decided to show up that day and uh I was
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absolutely delighted to be able to report back to them that the go the spirit of hospitality was still with them so um because he has even been
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cited through the the decades as well so um the story behind him um I was able to
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find and verify him with a u oh my brain
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an obituary um he was a cigar salesman in life uh he was unmarried and he lived
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at the hotel in the 1950s so um he he thought of the hotel
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staff as his family um because he he was always there when he wasn't on the go selling cigars and uh he was known as
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Eugene his name was Herman Abrams uh ejim was his middle name and um sadly he had a heart attack
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in the lobby and he was taken to one one of the hospitals here in town in York uh
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and uh he he died at the hospital so unfortunately um he he did pass away
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tragically but uh it wasn't long after his death that he started appearing back
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in the hospital so uh I'm sorry I'm sorry back at the hotel my my mistake
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and um it was fascinating because he was seen coming and going from the room that
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he'd always lived in he was seen coming and going in the elevator that he normally used uh to this day they have
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they have three elevators in the Yorktown now two of them are the old original elevators that have been updated to Modern code and then they had
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to install a third one to be um compliant with the modern walls so the
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third one if you ever get to ride in it is way bigger uh I was told it had to be big enough to fit a modern hospital
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stretcher in case of an emergency okay so um that said he rides in the old ones
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and there are folks to this day who still get into the elevator and they don't press the number eight but the number eight lights up um as if someone
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was going back to the eighth floor so I guess when Eugene's coming and going he
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uses the elevator still to this day um
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yeah uh I I actually kind of love that he uh doesn't he doesn't uh walk he he
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doesn't use portal energy he takes the elevator to go back and forth to his
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place so the eth floor has since been redone as sweets so his original room
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would whatever it looked like would not look like what it looks like now uh because the old hotel rooms were a lot
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smaller so um they I would imagine if you see him
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coming and going on the eighth floor it's going to be right through wall if he's going back into his old room
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because that is not the same as it would have been historically the floor plans up there are completely different
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now okay well you you were and I I you know we were talking about uh that Jane
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never showed up on any of your software or any of your imaging software on your phone but we were picking up some some
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energy we were we were absolutely you know the one that really stuck out to me was this the spirit that was standing
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right next to them one ma um I've thought about that so so many times I I
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remember thinking like I guess that's someone who's just here with her or for for her so um I thought that was really
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interesting because there were others that we saw walking around but um that
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one maid has someone who was right next to her working with her following her in other rooms as she was cleaning I don't
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know if like she had a a family member or or something but I thought that one was super fascinating and it's the only
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time using that software I have ever experienced something quite like that oh
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really interesting well you know at you know we went down we got down to the fifth floor
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yes and as we got closer to the area where possibly a room 507 would have
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been located mhm uh it was pretty obvious that by that time it was now a
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housekeeping storage room or closet yeah it is now a storage closet and
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um so you know now to me and now you know I was
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picking up things you were picking up things but there was just a deep sense of dread and pain when I got up to that
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door and basically I I was standing there in front of the door and I was
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literally touching the door and the original molding and I'm sure that was the
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original molding uh around the door and I got the sense or the word
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violence which was interesting because at the exact same time I said that Rissa
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said violet Violet now we both received that message
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though I believe that both Violet and violence were Rel relative terms in
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those circumstances um as I stood there and I
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was telling RIS of this as we were going through as it was coming to me I instantly
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sensed a female figure um short ke
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stature wearing a one piece dresser uniform she was
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africanamerican and had very short black shiny hair and she was in
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distress and pain and I saw a stream a blood of blood flowing down her left leg
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now I then saw her lying on her right side with her legs extended out of the
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room into the hallway
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so I and I told r i felt her pain and I felt shock as
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well and I I I guess I literally felt her
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dying um I think this was the nanny that you had talked about uh earlier on and I
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I truly believe that Jane was trying to tell us the nanny story or Violet story
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and her demise I mean I think that's why she was so insistent on getting us down
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there on that fifth floor so so I did go and try to research
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obituaries and any historic records I could but there was nothing um to be
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found so one of the things that we had discussed was that um if a woman was raped in 1920s especially if she was a
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single woman it would probably never have been reported to the police um to this day uh sexual assaults often are
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not reported to the police but back then for it to happen to a single
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woman Ely historically speaking very unlikely that that would have been
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reported um so no matter no matter where it happened or the nature of the crime uh it's unfortunate but this is a
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reality so um the story that we match this with was a story that is only ever
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a haunting that has only ever been reported by children so um VI I I've
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been calling her violet Violet only appears to kids and and um what we kind
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of sort of sensed was that she was never she was never married but she loved children and that she'd always wanted
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her own family so um in New York toown when children are distressed or upset or
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there's a baby that won't go to sleep and it's fussy it has been noted that a nanny ghost will appear and sooe them
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and they will go to sleep and you know I always think it's interesting because I had my first uh
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full spectral Apparition experience as a kid and I I didn't know to be afraid I had never been taught to be afraid so I
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just thought it was a thing that happened and I I rolled with it um because my parents had told me the
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ghosts were real and when they come along it that's just a thing um that nothing to be afraid of um and so I
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think that when the kids do see violets they don't know it's a ghost they just
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think oh it's it's an something that's here someone that's here to help me and
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indeed I I think that is what Violet how Violet appears to people she to kids
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she's a helper she's a a a kind Spirit um and it's it's very sad to think that
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she had a terrible ending to her life um whatever the nature of that might have looked like whether it was a miscarriage
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or some kind of violent crime or some kind of illness any of the above is a terrible ending um any of the above is a
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possible scenario and um what struck me about the
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imagery you were getting was that in the history of of women in general it has
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always been that horrible crimes committed against women are generally not uh reported and
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never receive what's the word I want to say the uh the retribution they deserve
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and if that was violet story that's genuinely heartbreaking and it would also kind of make sense that Jane who is
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a saucy Spirit would uh want us to know what happened to Violet while we were there that she would bring us to that
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place and show us that story so I have an add-on to Violet's story for you uh
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she only appears on the fourth and fifth floors to children just in those areas those are the only reports that I have
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personally and um uh Paran um first dat
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paranormal uh came to York PA uh they took my ghost tour and they stayed at the Yorktown and uh the minute they
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walked in off of the elevator on the first uh sorry fourth floor which is
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where they requested um to be put they they were especially interested in Violet um this was after un and I's
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investigation um their equipment turned on in their bags and started going a
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Spirit Box started talking um their cameras came on their EMF meters everything came on on on the fourth
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floor the minute they stepped off the elevator um now they they had been to
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another haunted location in New York and their their stuff picked up nothing but in New Yorktown the minute they hit the
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fourth floor everything came on um so I did ask them for an update before this
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interview but they they didn't get back to me yet um so I don't know what they found on those recordings yet but I'll
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definitely update you when I have any information well I'm glad GL you told me all this cuz that kind of verifies a lot
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of what we experienced and yes you know I make these assumptions based on my
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intuition and ability to interpret Spirit energy so you know at the time of our
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investigation you know I hadn't been able to gather any other intuitive evidence for the location even remotely
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uh other than what you know that Delise and her team had given um you know that
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instant connection with a terrible Act just then subtly turned off because
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since that investigation I haven't felt anything which is for me is kind of
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unusual there's several people in the chat who I know know me and know that a
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lot of times I will continue to pick up on things but I haven't picked up on anything since our
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investigation so uh that's kind of unusual one thing I did want to mention I I did I did pick up at the time it was
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either 1927 or 1928 M that Violet's death occurred it
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would be right after the hotel opened um and in and in 1928 it's interesting to
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note that is when the hex Hollow murder happened and everybody would have been
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crowded around downtown around New Yorktown when that um trial was going on just a interesting I never even thought
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about that but that's you're right well the history pieces together very nicely you know the um the Strand Theater which
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is part of the hson and now also went up in 1925 just like the Yorktown and they also have some very interesting ghosts
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there too wow yeah uh Delise put in there she
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wants to hear the updates when they come in and I will definitely send them to her oh yeah as soon as I know anything
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because I know they left all their equipment on all night long and they said it was active so um yeah I I'm
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super eager to hear what they what they said as well
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so uh well you know now we we did go down to
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the other floors after the fifth floor and uh we I don't know how much we really picked up on I you know we were
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kind of looking through the W at the windows and everything you were giving me the history of the area around the hotel and yep I was taking all that in
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but the place has a lot of energy um it does it really does it's um it's
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palpable uh it comes in waves I feel so
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um but what what's your assessment of the investigation itself mine I thought
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it was very successful we answered the question that they had and we were able to put a name to both Jane and violet
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and the staff was delighted to be able to name their their main Spirits they
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Jane is very interactive um when I was last at the Yorktown about a month ago I
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stopped by just to check in say hello um I'll stop and get like and chat with the staff uh I had more
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reports from Jane um apparently uh there was a young lady uh getting ready to
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stock some plastic uh cups that people were going to drink out of and uh they were coming up off of the pile and Bing
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Bing like flying across the counter at the young lady who was trying to stock
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them behind the counter so um where was that at in the lobby uh it was it was in
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a the area right behind the lobby bar where like behind the scenes area okay
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but uh yep she J and and they she knew to call her Jane and she was like Jane
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stop and then it stopped so yeah um and then I spoke to
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another um I spoke to another member of the staff who works in The Upstairs Lounge and uh she said that she was up
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there by herself getting ready for service and she said that she suddenly knew there was somebody else there she
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knew it she had the strongest sense of being watched and uh she said it wasn't
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bad but she was for a minute a little jangled because she hadn't heard anybody come and the elevators hadn't opened and
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um she uh said is it Jane and apparently like something like rattled around
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behind the bar and she just took that to mean yes that it was Jane and so she was kind of like okay well Jane I'm just
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gonna keep doing my work and nothing else happened with Jane at that time but
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um evidently Jane is getting to be known by the staff there and um answers to her
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name in some way
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wow you know it it it really feels good when you do an investigation like that
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and then things start falling into place with Witnesses and such um yeah
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that's and folks I didn't know much of this at all I mean red didn't tell me
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about it she was saving it for the show I imagine uh but uh yeah I feel very encouraged by that in fact I think you
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and I are going to to go down her one time another time oh I would love to um
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I I would actually love to take a Spirit Box in and see if Jane will talk to us um or if Violet would like to talk um I
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feel like I you and I were trying to figure out Jan's connection to the hotel I
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remember um us wondering how did she choose to come there like it was it was
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like a thing that we were really really stretching to figure out because she seems contemporary like she knows what Pepsi is and I realize that Pepsi goes
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back about a hundred years but you know most of the ghosts and in and spirit
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interactions I have they they don't ask for things like that so the fact that Jane rung herself up for Pepsis it it
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means to me that she lived in a much more modern time so yeah that's what I figured I you
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know I did go back and and try to do some research with the name itself and anything related to York the only thing
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I really got was a woman who had probably been married there uh at the
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hotel that's a possibility it could have been a link to a happy memory exactly
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and and she enjoyed the place and and went possibly went back definitely went back after death uh but I think I I
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think she may have actually lived uh west west of York I mean into
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there were two areas that I concentrated on one was not far from Pittsburgh and the other was somewhat near but um I I
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really couldn't pinpoint any information so uh maybe one day we'll get some information about that yeah I you know I
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did also search on obituaries on the name Jane and I I would like slotted off by like fiveyear time spans trying to
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find her but nothing and the yorktown's historian also checked into the name for
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me couldn't find that either um like I said of of the three of them the only one who name we can confirm for sure is
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Eugene's um like I said we we found him we found his obituary we found like information about his life but um as far
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as Violet if indeed she's who we think she was and um she was an
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African-American woman who worked at the Yorktown in the 1920s when they first opened there might not even be
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employment records of her anymore um unfortunately the Yorktown does have
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some history where um in their early years like in the 1920s and 30s uh
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African-American um employees were not treated the same and they had to use separate stairways separate bathrooms um
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this is just part of the history of America let's be honest but it was also
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the part of the history of the Yorktown um and if Jane was a Walkin that makes
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it way harder to pin on who she was abut um it makes it very difficult um but I
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like that she reacts to her name I like that uh when the staff call her Jane she
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responds so you know one of my ghostes towards law you're gonna think this is funny I told Violet's story and um a
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gentleman looked at me he goes I have a really fussy three-year-old can I just drop him off for
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her I was like I don't think the Y would appreciate that no I doubt
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it so um folks if you do have questions uh for Rissa or about the investigation
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or me or whatever uh please put them up in the chat and uh Christina will uh
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will get them to us uh so kind of tell the folks a bit about what you do now
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Risa as far as your your uh presentations and like I told you you're the busiest person I know I mean you you
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seem to be doing something every other day or you know just about yeah yeah you
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live you live down in Howard County I mean you live close to Baltimore and you're up here all the time doing my
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family uh my family is still in York okay so um that's why that's my
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connection to York um so I live in York parttime I I hang out with my parents they're getting older um and I'm able to
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provide assistance for them and um yes I absolutely love Howard County there's
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some uh super f fascinating stuff down there so um yeah um I was for many years
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I've been a ghost tour guide in elate City Maryland um and talk about a haunted place that place is just like
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elbow to Elbow with ghosts it's off the charts I mean you you know I sent you
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investigations I've done all around the area and uh yeah and in fact we're going
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to do Risa is going to be back on in about three weeks I think that's about right and we're going to be talking
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about that area in particular Hell House Hell House is a fascinating spot it used
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to be called St Mary's College and um if you know anything about Maryland you've heard of Hell House um AB Hell House has
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been um it's it was even mentioned on the show Supernatural um with Dean Dean and Sam and their car um yeah so it was
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really uh an amazing research project I spent a year doing it I worked with a
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lot of um historians I I actually had a research assistant because there was so
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much to Wade through about the region and about St Mary's College in particular so well you know I I saw one
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of your presentations that you did at the Howard County Historical Society yes and that was very interesting uh there
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was there was stuff I never even heard of before uh and it's funny because you know I worked across the river right
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directly across the river from Hell House from St Mary's for 20 years you work the mill right that has its own I
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work at simp and you know they're no longer there I mean they tore everything down it's you know it's part of the
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state park now and you sent me pictures you not long ago of the mill what's left
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there it's like yeah there's nothing there I mean it two concrete platforms to kind of like Branch out over the
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water and that's it and it's just it's covered in graffiti uh layers of graffiti so yeah I'm going to come down
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there one day you and are going to go around here and I'm going to tell you a few stories around I to do pistle Road
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and a few other places a lot of do that would be so much fun um I see how do you
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see them the software um let me look at the software I was using um so I have a
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page subscription to a program on my Google phone called ghost tube and I
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have that as imaging software they do have other things uh that they offer
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from Ghost tube but um it was suggested to me by some folks in Gettysburg who
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really love the technology and I have found it to be pretty useful we're gonna have to get to
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Gettysburg too that would be awfully fun I would enjoy that uh Jose Sanchez asked how did you
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see them on the software that's that's what I just yeah that was the software I used I do not have an infrared camera um
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I have used them in my life but I don't have one right now and Delise thanks for allowing my
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team to be part of this was also and look the lease has helped me out on several investigations and it was inv
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Val valuable information that she gave us and uh you know viewing is is pretty
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cool it is it's not it's not one of my like areas of expertise but it was it
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her and her team were right on the money at New Yorktown it was impressive oh you know I wanted to mention one other thing
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that I picked up from uh one of the staff members um I I just was peeking at my notes over
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here on the side so you and I walked past the ballroom and the ballroom is actually phenomenal um the windows
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themselves are worth driving to York to see because they are so amazing and um the ballroom was completely restored
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they had to this is going to be a funny thing to say uh one of the biggest parts of the restoration was stripping the
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walls of cigarette smoke so um remember you telling me that yep then so that was
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one of the big parts of the restoration that they did uh in the most recent one so all of that
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said um you and I both felt like there was some residual energy there but the the EMF meter wasn't picking it up my
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equipment wasn't picking it up uh and we both felt like it was dancing or celebrating or something turns out one
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of the staff members said that she was in New York town alone literally alone
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and uh right before they reopened and she said that she heard like dancing and
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chattering in there and the minute she went and turned on the light it stopped and then when she turned her back to
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walk away it started again so there that's there what what we talked about
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it was there wow uh Delise said laon's imagery and
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emotional connection to her was strong well yeah I mean I it it it it is amazing how I picked we
47:53
picked up on it you picked up on it I picked up on it I mean it was just it we were drawn there and she was directing
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us right to it oh yeah oh Jane is very interactive
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um I usually when I walk into the lobby I just start talking out loud I'm sure people think I'm crazy and that that's
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fine um I'm just like hi Jane how's it going you know and then I walk in and say hello to like the living people but
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um yeah I I talk to all my ghosts so well Delise put up here I did ask and
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I didn't tell you this but Delise told me this before we did the investigation I did ask if we could go back and speak
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to Jane and she answered sure so that was encouraging and and
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look she met us as soon as we got up there yeah it was really it was quite
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evident yeah I saw that Christina coincidence about the Pepsis and I'm drinking Pepsi yeah oh yeah little
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product placement never hurts right H let's see um Delise did you find
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a grave listing line I I did find some grave listings but I don't know if it was her uh it
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could have been uh but there wasn't anything definitive I I know Rissa looked into it as well yeah I couldn't
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find anything that I was sure about yeah uh let's see Jose Sanchez is
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infered technology used in detecting specters whenever you are on an
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investigation I this is the first time I've ever used it I the only technology
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that I have ever used because I'm kind of basic is um our our recordings or you
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know em em e EVP uh recordings and I've had some SE
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several EVP recordings which have a stound in me over the years but that's about the extent of what I use as far as
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uh any type of Technology you know I want to uh share with you right around the corner from
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New York town There's a store called House of Flowers and uh one of my ghost tour this year we brought do paranormal
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investigations along and we it was a different ghost tour because we stopped outside of four places and um we had
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they had their uh voice Spirit boxes right and which are the uh voice
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phenomenon outside of House of Flowers everybody started picking up there were several of these boxes going on a
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woman's voice now I knew the ghost story there and um I knew who she was and she
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started talking to everybody and then she was saying you know she was telling
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us how lonely she was she was asking what happened to the man who had been courting her um she was asking what year
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it was and then when we turned to leave like we spent a lot of time talking to her interacting with her and um when we
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turned to leave all the boxes rang out please don't go please don't leave me I'm so lonely don't go um and she was
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still hitting on those Spirit boxes a half a block away it was
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heartbreaking um in fact the owner of House of Flowers a woman named Katherine said you know I'm really s sad that
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she's that lonely I'm she bought a Spirit Box so that she can talk to her and they can have conversations during
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the day that's interesting Uh Kevin asked uh was there any extra activity while the changes
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took place you know as far as the construction um that's actually why we ended up in there um we ended up in
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there because they couldn't find Eugene and nobody had seen him and he used to appear in spectral form regularly um as
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far as I know he has not started reappearing in spectral form but he has started reappearing as an aroma of
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cigarettes I'm sorry cigars and on the um the eight lighting up on the elevator
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but um for whatever reason he's not appearing in spectral form I I can't explain to you why he's chosen not to um
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but I can tell you what he looked like when he did appear in spectal form because i' I've had so many people tell me uh he was always wearing a suit and
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tie and a hat he was very well dressed he was very well groomed and manicured and he was always carrying his cases of
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cigars interesting well you know and that being
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said by you you know and I this is one thing I was had thought about before we went in there was you know they did the
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renov ation normally when people do R Renovations on a location the activity picks up but it did entirely the
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opposite on this location it was almost like it was suppressed somehow yeah it it was definitely
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interesting although it did somehow the renovation brought Jane in yeah and
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suddenly it got up his that's true that's true yeah uh who's a maybe she's
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like I like the Chic new rooftop Lounge I think I'll say it's pretty nice up there um Jose ass why do you think
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apparitions many time are missing either feet or a face well I can I can tell
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you uh full body operations are very rare it takes a lot of energy to
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manifest like that and quite frankly when I do see a manifestation it's it's
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very rarely anything beyond the head and shoulders uh and I have seen a few
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especially get his b i I've seen a lot there uh but it takes a lot of
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energy you have any comment on that sure you know my very first experience was with a full body Apparition and he
53:39
definitely had a face because I can still see it in my mind clear as day that was in England in England I was a
53:45
little girl um I was going upstairs in a restaurant to use the bathroom and a teenage boy appeared um I could see his
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pained expression on his face like I I could see exactly how he was feeling
53:57
from his body language and I actually ran downstairs to go get help because I
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thought oh well I need to get a parent or someone to help this this young man
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um and when of course I came back with my mom he was gone turns out his name was marmaduk buckle and he had um hanged
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himself in that room oh so yeah he he was a special needs person but in the
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1600s that was mistaken for witchcraft and uh he was scheduled to be put to death and so instead he took his own
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life it was a super tragic story but it he had face I I saw all of him um how
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many times in my life has that happened very very very few I can tell you in elate City there are people who see
54:40
faces and there are particular apparitions whose faces show up regularly I I can think of names so um
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it it does happen um but it's the least common in my experience paranormal
54:53
phenomenon as far as hauntings that I know it's much more common to be touched to
54:59
smell to hear and to sense at least in my
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experience yeah and and when we do the next show we will be talking about full
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body apparitions as well because I had quite an experience also uh sir wolf ask
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hi Lon is there a way to move them on why are they still there you know that's
55:22
a touchy subject quite honestly
55:28
unless they're causing a problem and look it's all free will if they don't want to move on they won't move on uh
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you can kind of assist them in doing it you know that's that's how why I learned
55:40
how to remote view because quite honestly that it it seemed to be a good
55:46
way or a good conduit to helping these energies move to another level uh but
55:53
just like anything else there is free will so if they don't want to go they won't
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go no that's I that's been my experience as well yeah uh Jose uh might murmuring behind
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the wall cases as if many people speaking in a cafeteria be linked to multiple Spirits or something else it
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could also just be a residual yeah it's probably mostly a residual I would imagine um you know I hear people or get
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reports of people hearing a lot of voices at one time and uh I I I do believe that is residual
56:31
just like when I had my first encounter at Gettysburg when I was nine years old I mean all that was residual in my
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estimation uh gbur has a ton of residual yeah even even in videos and stuff of
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spirits and apparitions and and manifestations it it's 99% of is
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residual uh just like the um up on hers rig
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people have taken so many videos of the uh the manifestation around the uh the
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the Cannons uh part of uh keer uh Brigade uh
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that same Apparition I've been seeing pictures of that for 50 years now it's
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the same thing it just shows up to different people or the right conditions
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uh any other qu oh Lon what's your favorite cocktail I can't I can't drink
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anymore because of surgery I had but my favorite my favorite cocktail was
57:39
actually what I called a snake bite and that was a Yukon Jack and and lime juice so there you go take it for what it
57:47
is um Matthew I believe that the half manifestations have to do with
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reconstruction so seeing a half Spirit might be something to do with the floor that no longer there if you could see
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below the floor maybe we'll see a pair of feet I I guess it's possible maybe
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yeah sure yeah uh Delise uh I think I wrote in a
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report I thought Jane was a model for clothing she would have been very
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chic you know I I I did associate her with style the period where she was in um
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she just seemed like that that she was stylish and New Yorktown is honestly an upscale place and it always was ever
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since day one so if she was married there or dined there or whatever she
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would have been a person of some privilege so that makes sense sir wolf but so many of them seem
58:46
lost or unaware of their situation well yeah it does turn out like that
58:52
occasionally if you if you're lucky enough to get some type of communication with
58:58
them um with me intuitively or through remote viewing
59:04
somehow um many times they don't even know they're dead they don't even know
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they're in another period of time and um the energy that's that's what I have found to Lon yeah you know it's you know
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hauntings are basically an energy trying to communicate with the living and it kind
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of turns out to where you're scaring the hell out the living and they don't know what's going on so that's what causes
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the investigation to be conducted um but I I I think they're in
59:34
in some cases they just have a lot of questions and they just don't realize that they have passed on and that can
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last for hundreds of years and uh you know you know I've done a lot of
59:47
Investigations and Del this I've done a lot of Investigations in England I mean
59:52
though distant investigations and it was all done by you know by uh computer or
59:58
laptop or but the RVs were done you know and um a lot of the energy that we have
1:00:06
gotten in investigations in that old world setting are just like that they don't realize
1:00:12
they passed on and that's when you're talking about the intelligent Spirits the interactive
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ex yeah I don't I don't think residuals have a feeling about it I I I
1:00:24
feel to me like they're somebody once explained it to me as a uh scar on time
1:00:29
space and I thought that was one of the most articulate ways to describe a residual I've ever heard of um so if you
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think of time space as an entity around us just like you know I always say I have this scar in my hand for my curling
1:00:41
iron you can look at it and it'll look different from different angles but same with a scar on time space that's why
1:00:47
they tend to sink or they always do the same thing or you know they're always standing next to the same Cannon um it's
1:00:54
just a scar on time space yeah yeah that is a good that is a good
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description I have to steal that one uh JY Sanchez do you think the ghost might
1:01:05
be capable of traveling to other dimensions and back uh what do you think me I mean I
1:01:14
honestly have I have no idea I mean anything's possible um it's it's definitely possible in terms of physics
1:01:21
for there to be multiple Dimensions um I'm not a physicist I'm not going to claim to know a lot about that but um I
1:01:28
think anything is possible unless you can rule it out yeah you know and people know I you
1:01:35
know I've been involved with this thing in Chicago and I I think there's dimensional travel involved with that so
1:01:41
I I I believe more and more as we do these type of Investigations either with
1:01:48
Cryptids or energies or alien beings or
1:01:53
or whatever I I I think for the most part there's some type of interdimensional some type of um portal
1:02:01
type uh thing involved with these of course we can't definitively prove that
1:02:08
at this point but maybe one day we will but it it's you know a lot of people
1:02:13
talk about it people talk about it more and more as time has gone on uh they they can't really come up with a
1:02:20
plausible explanation as to why these things show up and disappear and you
1:02:26
know quickly I mean most people can't come up with explanations of why they do the things they do every day never mind
1:02:32
why exactly somebody else is doing something so it it just stands to reason
1:02:37
that there are certain things beyond our comprehension for now yeah yep I agree
1:02:43
with you okay folks got any more questions somebody said they like the
1:02:49
movie The Others it's one of my favorites I love it I that movie too it's one of the best ways to explain
1:02:55
ghosts that I ever seen talking about the Nicole Kidman movie Nicole Kidman movie yeah that you know I was kind of
1:03:02
hanging on the edge a thinking that might be what happens at the end and of course it did but it was uh yeah it was
1:03:09
a very good explanation of of uh energies and one of my very favorites I
1:03:15
love that movie yeah yeah so Rissa why don't you tell the folks how they can
1:03:22
contact you uh some of the things you're involved with sure oh my God we'll be
1:03:27
here for half an hour oh I'll keep it I'll keep it I promise so um you can find I have two
1:03:35
different websites one is called tea andm smoke.com so te like the beverage and smoke um that is my divination
1:03:42
website and um so I do te Leaf reading uh smoke reading tarot and that's how
1:03:49
you can find me there and that also has matching social media on Instagram and YouTube and then I have it called
1:03:56
Haunted pa. online and uh that's my GH store site so um that has a matching
1:04:03
Instagram and YouTube as well and on that YouTube I just tell stories um condensed into one minute reels about um
1:04:12
other people's ghostly experiences in the state of Pennsylvania so as far as where to catch me live and in person um
1:04:18
I'm mostly done for the year or and or sold out I have two more events coming up that are not sold out um they are
1:04:25
both my unmar Monsters of uh Christmas so I talk about the spooky side of the U
1:04:31
tide uh things like Krampus and the marude and uat and I have one coming up
1:04:37
tomorrow night in Lancaster at the nine Collective that there's still tickets for as well as on Friday December 20th
1:04:44
at the haunted orphanage in Gettysburg which is a wonderful place to give presentations uh last time the ghosts
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were so active I was giving a talk there they were jingling bells and you could hear po steps and there was so much
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activity it was like two shows for the price of one so it was my January is not
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super busy I am doing an Edgar Allan Poe poetry day on Po's birthday at the uh
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Handover Serpent's key in their new location they are moving to a bigger place as a line you'll have to check it
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out but um yes she's she's expanding and so I'll be doing a dark
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poetry workshop and then an open M Night the open M Night portion is free um my ghost tours don't start up again in
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Maryland or Pennsylvania until April um but until then I will be doing various
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presentations inside for um the months of um February and March but you can
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check my websites or my social media I do have a Facebook account that if you just send me a friend request I will let
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you follow um or I do post stuff on my websites and on the Instagram Pages as
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well and Russ's also now part of the Phantoms of monsters 14 Research team
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and we're very glad to have her I need someone else to with me around the area
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who can look into things like this so uh yeah and I I I really enjoyed us working
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together and I you know I I want to do it again so I'm looking forward to it
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and I can't wait till our next talk in a few weeks about St Mary's College also known as hell house it's going to be a
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good one um I I have so much to say about it it's it was such a great
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project and you know honestly I think it's going to be something I'll eventually write a book about because it's such a rich rich topic and there's
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still so many questions and gaps even after a full year of me and an assistant researching it there are questions I
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still can't answer about that property so uh Rissa hang on and uh I'm
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going to go ahead and and close the show out and then we can talk a little bit afterwards
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so uh folks I want to thank you all for uh coming on here and watching and chatting if if you donated it's truly
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