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Friday, August 07, 2015

Follow-Up: Asked Too Many Questions

Deseret Chemical Depot (DCD)

On Thursday, I posted the following report:

Asked Too Many Questions

Tooele, Utah - 6/1988: I was working at Subway and they were building these buildings, nothing like I have ever seen. The walls had to have been 20 feet thick. I snuck into one and saw that it was not a normal room. It was a clean room with tools I have never seen. I also noticed that there was like a triangle landing area in the middle. I looked up and could see where the roof opened up in sections like 8 different parts. I started asking questions and was fired within two days. - MUFON CMS

NOTE: The Tooele Chemical Agent Disposal Facility is located in the Deseret Chemical Depot (DCD), a US Army installation. Lon

Dugway Proving Ground

This morning, I received the following information in reference to the previous post:

Hi Lon,

In 2003, I was a member of the California Army National Guard and we were mobilized and sent to Tooele, UT to augment the DOD Security there. This was just very recently after the 9/11 attacks and back when we thought the Taliban were hiding everywhere. There was actually a trio of Army facilities in that area - Tooele Army Depot which just stored conventional munitions, DCD which stored a huge number of the Nation's stockpile of offensive chemical weapons (and also had a state of the art destruction facility for destroying them) and the infamous Dugway Proving Grounds.

My unit was split into three elements to provide security at all three locations while we there from Jun to Dec 2003. Dugway was far enough away (about an hour out) that the element responsible for security there co-located out there to provide continuous full time security. The remainder stayed behind in barracks at the Tooele Army Depot (or TEAD as the Army referred to it), some to pull security right there, and my unit which would rotate out to DCD which was a 30 minute bus ride away and pull 3 day shifts out there.

I was in a position to observe both TEAD and DCD locations and I can tell you that there was no Subway at either locations. I know the account dates from 1988 so anything is possible, particularly since there seemed to have been Subways at just about every military installation I have ever been to, to include overseas. At these two locations however, TEAD was actually a tiny installation that barely warranted a footprint and the DCD location was located too closely to some very nasty chemicals to put commercial businesses there.

As always anything is possible, that is one reason I read your newsletter. The security at both of these places was fairly serious, the one at DCD very serious because of what was stored there. I am just having a hard time buying any Subway employee being close enough to either location to be able to see anything at these locations that might warrant a description like this.

Some of the guys in my unit did claim to have seen ghosts at DCD. I never did but when I told the cultural affairs advisor there about it, he didn't laugh at me and said he had head similar stories. Same for UFO's. We pulled a lot of security shifts in the middle of the night and there were rumors of UFO's making an appearance also, coming overhead from the Dugway location. Again I never saw it either but some very serious, normally skeptical people I worked with were telling me some very interesting situations they personally observed.

Just my own two cents...AW

NOTE: I was aware of Dugway Proving Ground though, like AW stated, it is about one hour away from Tooele. Here is other information you may be interested in:

The Dugway 'New Area 51' Supposition

Information from a reader in February 2011:

I was surprised to see your post about Area 51 and Dugway Proving Ground. I used to live in Terra, Utah form 1992-1996. Dugway is where my kids went to school when we lived there. I became friends with a lady who had a daughter that was in one of the same classes as one of my daughters. She lived on post and her husband was a pilot, she once told me that things were being moved from Area 51 onto Dugway. She seemed very disturbed about it and wanted her husband to transfer to a different post. All of it made me very uncomfortable, back then I didn't believe in that kind of stuff and I thought that maybe I made a bad choice in being friends with her. I ended our friendship as slowly and easily as I could (because our daughter's were still friends) and that pretty much ends my story. There are a lot of people in Terra and all over Skull Valley who are (or were living) during the time of the nuclear testing. I met alot of people who were down-winders and many people who had cancer or lost family members. It is a closed group in that area, even the natives that live there keep to themselves. If they did move something from Area 51 to Dugway, the government chose well.

From 5/28/2015:

Dugway...the New Area 51?

(NOTE: I intend on writing about this in the near future...but, there is mounting evidence that the Dugway Proving Ground in Utah is now the top UFO research facility for the U.S. Military. The following MUFON CMS report offers some recent information. Lon)

Dugway, UT - 2/5/2015: We own a truck company and we were deleting to Dugway military base. First we had to get clearance than we wait about an hour for a military escort. Once through the check points we started through the base into the desert first. All the buildings were empty as were all further checkpoints. As we approach the desert a military drone followed us as we went deeper into the desert. There were roads that ended into mountain side and a giant cement staircase in the middle of the desert with no cement or asphalt around like a landing pad. After driving for about 45 mins or so were are instructed to unload the container we were carrying in the middle of the desert. We were escorted back to the entrance. A few days later I was rushed to the hospital in Texas where I was treated for kidney failure. About a week or so later they had no reason why I had the failure except maybe I was born with it, although for 30+ years I've had no problems until now. - MUFON CMS

From 6/19/2015:

NASA: No Aliens at Area 51

We will one day find aliens, but they’re not in Area 51, the head of Nasa has said.

There are so many other planets that “we're going to find...evidence that there is life elsewhere in the universe”, Nasa administrator Major Charles Frank Bolden Jr told school children on Sky News.

Asked by 10-year-old Carmen Dearing on the channel’s Hot Seat programme, he said: "I do believe that we will someday find other forms of life or a form of life, if not in our solar system then in some of the other solar systems - the billions of solar systems in the universe.

“Today we know that there are literally thousands, if not millions of other planets, many of which may be very similar to our own earth. So some of us, many of us believe that we're going to find… evidence that there is life elsewhere in the universe."

Admitting that there was an Area 51 — the highly-confidential US government site that has often been rumoured to hide away secret aliens and their space ships — Bolden said that it’s “not what many think”.

“I’ve been to a place called that but it’s a normal research and development place,” he said. “I never saw any aliens or alien spacecraft or anything when I was there.

“I think because of the secrecy of the aeronautics research that goes on there it’s ripe for people to talk about aliens being there.”

"I do believe that we will someday find other forms of life or a form of life, if not in our solar system then in some of the other solar systems - the billions of solar systems in the universe.” - Aliens are out there and Area 51 is real, head of NASA says

NOTE: Maybe 'not now'...but crash retrieved beings were there (briefly) at one time. They aren't at Wright-Patterson AFB either. My bet is on 2 locations currently...MacDill AFB and Dugway Proving Ground. But I'll go into that later. Lon

Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base

Inside the Real Area 51: The Secret History of Wright Patterson

Area 51: The Graphic History of America's Most Secret Military Installation

Area 51 - Black Jets: A History of the Aircraft Developed at Groom Lake, America's Secret Aviation Base

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