Sunday, August 22, 2010

Retired FBI Agent Claims Oswald 'Absolutely' Did Not Kill JFK

Right-wing extremist Joseph Milteer has been implicated in JFK's assassination by retired FBI agent Don Adams

irishcentral - A retired FBI agent has come forward with evidence that President John F. Kennedy was not killed by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas on Nov 22, 1963.

The Korean War veteran and retired FBI agent, Don Adams, was interviewed by a FOX 8 news reporter. He told the reporter that he worked as an FBI field agent in Thomasville, Georgia.

Adams, who is now 80-years-old, told the reporter that one of his assignments was to investigate "one of the most violent men in the country,” Joseph Milteer.

Adams had an informer who recorded a conversation with Milteer just weeks before the assassination. In the tapes the extreme right radical, with links to the KKK and States Right Party, can be heard talking about the best way to shoot the President. He say the prime location "is from an office building with a high powered rifle."

Agent Adams and his team located Milteer in Quintan, Georgia on November 27, 1963 but the Senior Agent would not allow a proper investigation.

"I said, 'Boss wait a minute, we have an opportunity to elicit tremendous information from him' and he replied 'five questions and nothing more'," said Adams.

Milteer was asked if the President was going to be assassinated. He replied "Oh yes. It's in the works."

It is Adams belief that this information should have been enough for the FBI and the Secret Service to have stop President Kennedy and his wife from travelling.

After the assassination had been carried out Milteer was "jubilant" and bragged about it. He said "You thought I was kidding when I said he would be killed from a window with a high powered rifle."

Milteer was never mentioned in the Warren Commission Report which investigated the assassination. The report from FOX 8 said "Adams suspects Milteer was definitely involved in President Kennedy's death, but he says Oswald absolutely was not."


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Mary Farrell Foundation - Thirteen days before Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, a man named Joseph Milteer was tape recorded telling Miami police informant William Somersett that the murder of Kennedy was "in the working," that the best means of killing Kennedy was "from an office building with a high-powered rifle," and that "they will pick up somebody within hours afterwards, if anything like that would happen just to throw the public off."

Foreknowledge of the assassination, or just a lucky guess coupled with an uncanny understanding of how such things work?

Miami Police notified the Secret Service, and there are indications that an unannounced motorcade in Miami scheduled for later that month was cancelled. After the Kennedy assassination, informant Somersett spoke to Milteer on the phone. Police and FBI interviews with Somersett revealed that Milteer was jubilant, and said that "everything ran true to form. I guess you thought I was kidding when I said he would be killed from a window with a high-powered rifle."

The Warren Commission never learned the full truth of Milteer's statements, receiving just a cursory interview report in December 1963 and a somewhat more detailed one in July 1964, late in the Commission's term. But even the later report failed to discuss the recorded statements which the Secret Service received. A more complete version of the story finally reached the public in 1967 in a newspaper article.

The HSCA investiged whether a man photographed standing in the crowd in Dealey Plaza was Milteer - the resemblance is certainly strong. the HSCA's photographic panel determined, based on height calculations, that the man was not Milteer.

Who was Joseph Milteer? He was an organizer for the racist National States Rights Party and the Constitution Party. The latter organization's membership included retired Marine General Pedro del Valle, about whom Drew Pearson wrote in 1961 that del Valle came close to "urging armed insurrection." If Milteer's predictions were indeed based on foreknowledge, then the path to Kennedy's real killers would lead to right-wing segregationists and military extremists, categories which included some very powerful people.

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Transcript of Milteer-Somersett Tape

Note: This is a transcript of a tape recorded on 9 Nov 1963 by Miami Police informant William Somersett, recording a conversion with right-wing extremist Joseph Milteer. The transcript is taken from Harold Weisberg's essay The Milteer Documents in the book The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond (in this version, INFORMANT has been replaced with SOMERSETT, and SUBJECT with MILTEER).

SOMERSETT: Now we are going to, you are going to have to take, Kenney, what do you call his last name?

MILTEER: Kenneth Adams.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, you are going to take him in, he is supposed to be one of the hard-core of the underground, are you going to invite him into that, too? What about Brown, now, are you going to invite Brown in? You are going to have Brown in it?

MILTEER: Yeah.

SOMERSETT: Now, I will tell you between me and you, because we are talking, we aren't going to talk to everybody like we are talking here. Now, you know this, I like Brown, he is a good fellow, you know him, now here is something, when we was in his house, now, he knows me and you, but he didn't know Lee McCloud, well I think he done too much talking in front of a man he didn't know. Brown trusts a lot of people, he figures everybody is good.

MILTEER: Yeah.

SOMERSETT: And you know when he was telling her [or him, not legible] about blowing up all those churches and, you know, I don't think he should have said all that in front of McCloud.

MILTEER: That is exactly the way I feel about it, too. And I didn't talk about it any more after we left there.

SOMERSETT: No, I see you didn't, you see, these things come to my mind, I don't know McCloud well, and Brown never seen him before in his life, that I know of, now you seen this boy, Jackie, didn't open his mouth, he just sit there and listened. Jack Caulk [phonetic] he is a very quiet boy, Brown it just seems, well, he, I guess he has gotten by with so much he just don't care. He come out with all that about going over to Atlanta carrying that stuff, and showing them how to operate, I didn't want to say anything to him, but I don't think it is a good idea for people to discuss things like that in front of strangers. What do you think about it?

MILTEER: No, I - He should operate that, the same as he does the rest of it.

SOMERSETT: That's right, damn right that is right. Now you take like the Birmingham ... [Milteer breaks in]

MILTEER: Any conclusion they come up with, that's them, not him.

SOMERSETT: That is true.

MILTEER: He didn't give them anything.

SOMERSETT: Well, he didn't give them nothing.

MILTEER: Just like me at home there folks want to know, "Joe, where do you get all of your information?" "Well, I get it, that is all you are interested in," and that is as far as it goes, see. And the same guy will turn around and give me some information, but he doesn't know where I am getting my information. The same guy who asks me where I get my information, will turn around and give me information.

SOMERSETT: Well, sure, of course, I realize that.

MILTEER: That is the way you have got to operate.

SOMERSETT: Well, that is what I say, if you are going to take Brown in, and Brown is going to be one of the head men, the man behind you, then you have got to talk to Brown a little bit, and tell him, you know, "You have got to be a little more conscientious, especially on these bombings, and killings," after all he comes right out with it.

MILTEER: We have got to let him understand, that, that is his operation, and not ours.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, that is true. We don't care, if he wants to go to Birmingham and blow up a church, let him.

MILTEER: If he wants to blow up the National Capital, that is alright with me. I will go with him, but not as a party though, as an individual.

SOMERSETT: Well, if you want to go with him and help him blow it up, that is not the party, it is an individual, you are going to have to make him understand that.

MILTEER: There is a party movement, and there is also an individual movement.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, that is right.

MILTEER: And they are distinct and separate.

SOMERSETT: Well, you are going to have to make him understand that, right there, he didn't exactly admit it, but Jesus Christ, he intimated, he indicated right there, he backed the bombings of killing the negroes in Birmingham, well, you know damn well we don't want anybody talking like that.

MILTEER: Can't afford it.

SOMERSETT: Well, you damn well that is bad talk especially to somebody he don't know. He could have said that to me, and you would have been alright, it would have been between you and me then.

MILTEER: That is true.

SOMERSETT: But to go ahead and say it in front of Lee McCloud, what that [sic] hell ... [Milteer breaks in]

MILTEER: Well, I think he thought that he would [not] have been with us, if he had not been alright. But that is still not enough.

SOMERSETT: No, hell no, that is no good, at least before he made all those statements, he should have called you outside, or consulted about this man a little bit.

MILTEER: You have to have reservations, you know.

SOMERSETT: That is right. Hell, he didn't say these things in any way to try to get us into trouble, because the only one who could be in trouble would be him, he was confessing on his damn self, he wasn't confessing on us, because we hadn't done a damn thing.

MILTEER: You and I would not get up there on the stand and say that he told us a cotton picking thing either.

SOMERSETT: Well, he knows that, but how about the other man.

MILTEER: Well, that is what I say.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, hell yes. I tell you something, you take Kenneth Adams over there, he is a mean damn man, like Brown was saying, the guy he was sending him to, well Kenneth is real mean, and the way Brown indicated they [not legible] the negroes, well, we don't care anything about that. I would rather he wouldn't tell us those stories.

MILTEER: You sure can't repeat them.

SOMERSETT: Yeah. That is the set-up we are in now, I mean, we have to work with them, but let them operate their grollings [phonetic], like you say, if you want to go with them, that is your opinion, you go with him up to Washington and blow with him, if you want to go ... [Milteer breaks in]

MILTEER: I have a man who is the head of his underground of his own up there in Delaware, and since I worked on the Supreme Court, he wanted me to give him the lay-out there so they could go over there and do some things there, you know. But he called it off, I don't know why, I didn't even ask him why. That was his affair, but he called it off. But I was ready to go with him. I gave him the damn information he wanted.

SOMERSETT: You worked on the Supreme Court.

MILTEER: Yeah, three and a half years.

SOMERSETT: Well, that is why he wanted you to go, then, well, them things have got to be done, but outside the Party, we have got to be mighty careful who the hell we let know anything. Now, here is one thing you have got to realize, transporting dynamite across the state line is a federal offense, well you better let them know that.

MILTEER: Well, there is a way to beat that, you know. All you have to do is pull up to the state line, unload it there, slide it across the line, get in the car and load it again, and they can't accuse you of transporting it then, because you didn't do it. I have done the same thing with a woman. I had one, then I had a woman frame me on it. I got to the state line, and I said, "Listen, Toots, this is the state line, get out, and I will meet you over there," she got out, walked across the line, got in my car in the other state, I didn't transport her, there wasn't a fucking thing she could do about it, I had her ass for a long time.

SOMERSETT: I was talking to a boy yesterday, and he was in Athens, Georgia, and he told me, that they had two colored people working in that drug store, and that them, uh, they went into the basement, and tapped them small pipes, I guess that they are copper together, and let that thing accumulate, and blowed the drug store up. He told me that yesterday, do you think that is right?

MILTEER: It could have happened that way.

SOMERSETT: Well, that is what he told me, and he is in town right now.

MILTEER: Does he know who did it? Do they think these negroes did it?

SOMERSETT: Oh, no, they killed the negroes, because they had two negroes working in the place, that is what he told me. He is in town now, he is from Chattanooga. He knows Brown, he knows all of them, his uncle is in the Klan there. He is a young boy, he has been in the Marines, and he really knows his business. He went there, he went down and looked, and he told me that is what happened. So he has been involved in quite a little bit of stuff, according to his story about Nashville, Chattanooga, and Georgia. I have no reason not to believe him, because he told me too much about Brown's operation, that is the reason I [not legible].

MILTEER: Yeah. You take this boy, Connor McGintis [phonetic], boy up there in Union, N.J., of course he doesn't go to anything like that, but he is on our side, he is the one that puts out that Common Sense. He is an ex-Marine. He is all man, too.

SOMERSETT: Now, you see, we will talk to these other people, you have made up your mind that you are going to use the Constitutional Party as a front.

MILTEER: Yeah, Constitutional Party States Rights.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, and it will be strictly secret, and nobody will be exposed except you.

MILTEER: Yeah.

SOMERSETT: Because when we talk to them today, you want to know exactly what to tell them, how it operates.

MILTEER: Yeah, and we have got to set up a little fund there to get it operating.

SOMERSETT: Oh, yeah, sure.

MILTEER: And I am going to devote my time to it, I don't have any idea of getting elected to that City Commission, but I am just making it cost them bastards it cost them as it is, cost them between $1,500 and $2,000 to beat me before, so I want to make it cost them another couple of thousand dollars. If they want to get rid of me, they can buy my fucking property, and I will get out of the damn town. In other words, they will save me money. I am going to put that out in one of the damn bulletins there, see. We put, the way I operate, put out these little bulletins, like a typewriter page, eight and a half by eleven, and brother don't you think they ain't waiting for them, when I don't put them out, "Joe, where is the bulletin?" Bill, that could go all over the country the same way. That was just a trial proposition, if it will work in a little stinking town like that, it will work anywhere.

SOMERSETT: I don't know, I think Kennedy is coming here on the 18th, or something like that to make some kind of speech, I don't know what it is, but I imagine it will be on the TV, and you can be on the look for that, I think it is the 18th that he is suppose to be here. I don't know what it is suppose to be about.

MILTEER: You can bet your bottom dollar he is going to have a lot to say about the Cubans, there are so many of them here.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, well he will have a thousand bodyguards, don't worry about that.

MILTEER: The more bodyguards he has, the easier it is to get him.

SOMERSETT: What?

MILTEER: The more bodyguards he has the more easier it is to get him.

SOMERSETT: Well how in the hell do you figure would be the best way to get him?

MILTEER: From an office building with a high-powered rifle, how many people [room noise--tape not legible] does he have going around who look just like him? Do you know about that?

SOMERSETT: No, I never heard that he had anybody.

MILTEER: He has got them.

SOMERSETT: He has?

MILTEER: He has about fifteen. Whenever he goes any place they [not legible] he knows he is a marked man.

SOMERSETT: You think he knows he is a marked man?

MILTEER: Sure he does.

SOMERSETT: They are really going to try to kill him?

MILTEER: Oh, yeah, it is in the working, Brown himself, Brown is just as likely to get him as anybody. He hasn't said so, but he tried to get Martin Luther King.

SOMERSETT: He did.

MILTEER: Oh yes, he followed him for miles and miles, and couldn't get close enough to him.

SOMERSETT: You know exactly where he is in Atlanta don't you.

MILTEER: Martin Luther King, yeah.

SOMERSETT: Bustus Street [phonetic].

MILTEER: Yeah 530.

SOMERSETT: Oh Brown tried to get him huh?

MILTEER: Yeah.

SOMERSETT: Well, he will damn sure do it, I will tell you that. Well, that is why, look, you see, well, that is why we have to be so careful, you know that Brown is operating strong.

MILTEER: He ain't going to play you know.

SOMERSETT: That is right.

MILTEER: He is going for broke.

SOMERSETT: I never asked Brown about his business or anything, you know just what he told me, told us, you know. But after the conversation, and the way he talked to us, there is no question in my mind about who knocked the church off in Birmingham, you can believe that, that is the way I figured it.

MILTEER: That is right, it is about the ony way you can figure it.

SOMERSETT: That is right.

MILTEER: Not being there, not knowing anything.

SOMERSETT: But just from his conversation, as you and me know him, but if they did, it is their business, like you say [Milteer breaks in].

MILTEER: It is up to the individual.

SOMERSETT: That is right. They are individual operators, we don't want that within the party. Hitting this Kennedy is going to be a hard proposition, I tell you, I believe, you may have figured out a way to get him, you may have figured out the office building, and all that. I don't know how them Secret Service agents cover all them office buildings, or anywhere he is going, do you know whether they do that or not?

MILTEER: Well, if they have any suspicion they do that of course. But without suspicion chances are that they wouldn't. You take there in Washington, of course it is the wrong time of the year, but you take pleasant weather, he comes out on the veranda, and somebody could be in a hotel room across the way there, and pick him off just like [fades out].

SOMERSETT: Is that right?

MILTEER: Sure, disassemble a gun, you don't have to take a gun up there, you can take it up in pieces, all those guns come knock down, you can take them apart.

SOMERSETT: They have got a damn, this boy was telling me yesterday about, they have got an explosive that you get out of the army, it is suppose to be like putty or something, you stick it up, and use a small fuse, you just stick it like that, he told me, and I think that is what happened in the church in Birmingham, they stuck this stuff, somebody stuck it under the steps with a short fuse, and went on home. This boy is pretty smart, demolition is that what you call it?

MILTEER: Demolition, that is right.

SOMERSETT: I am going to talk with him some more.

MILTEER: Yeah I would.

SOMERSETT: I am going to talk with him some more, and find out a lot more about his operation, because he knows a hell of a lot.

MILTEER: You need a guy like that around, too. Where we can put our finger on him, when we want him.

SOMERSETT: Yeah. Well, you have got somebody up there in that country now, if you need him.

MILTEER: Well, we are going to have to get nasty first [not legible].

SOMERSETT: Yeah, get nasty.

MILTEER: We have got to be ready, we have got to be sitting on go, too.

SOMERSETT: Yeah, that is right.

MILTEER: There ain't any count down to it, we have just got to be sitting on go. Count down they can move in on you, and on go they can't. Count down is alright for a slow prepared operation, but in an emergency operation, you have got to be sitting on go.

SOMERSETT: Boy, if that Kennedy gets shot, we have got to know where we are at. Because you know that will be a real shake, if they do that.

MILTEER: They wouldn't leave any stone unturned there no way. They will pick up somebody within hours afterwards, if anything like that would happen just to throw the public off.

SOMERSETT: Oh, somebody is going to have to go to jail, if he gets killed.

MILTEER: Just like that Bruno Hauptmann in the Lindbergh case you know [Dials telephone].

SOMERSETT: "Hello, is Jim there?" "Has he gone to the office?" "Uh, huh, well, is he coming back home?" "Alright, I will do that, thank you." He has gone out to one of those apartment houses, and he will be back later. We will go see whatamacallit, he closes at 1:00 o'clock. We will go up and see Andrew, and we will double back to Jim's [room noise].

MILTEER: Actually the only man we are interested in up at that place [room noise - not legible - door closes].

Retired FBI Agent Claims Oswald 'Absolutely' Did Not Kill JFK

8 comments :

carlee333 said...

FINALLY FINALLY!!!!! Thank God for people like him, coming forward like that. I think everyone should just adopt the government's way of defending our actions and explaining ourselves. Everyone should study all the 'defence' arguements the gov has ever used, and encourage people to start using them too. Let's start setting some precedents in a lot of way.....

Jum said...

Milteer is a fraud.

I worked for the Department of Justice in federal law enforcement for almost 30 years, prosecuting just about every kind of violation of federal law there is.

I was involved in several investigations from the Civil Rights Era which were revived or never closed; including the bombing of the 16th St Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, in which the "Four Little Girls" were killed.

I've interviewed and listened to tapes of interviews of all manner of criminals. I've also spent a good bit of time interviewing and listening to tapes of interviews of several white supremacists and dedicated Klansmen.

I know who Milteer was. I know that he was like 95% of the racists and Klansmen who have been said to be "responsible" for everything from JFK's assassination to Daylight Savings Time and schools starting back in mid-August. That is to say he's a braggart, a blowhard and a physical and moral coward, who was a failure at most areas of his life and incompetent in general.

Jim Marrs has pushed Milteer's "predictions" for years as evidence of his foreknowledge. But for all the "predictions" Milteer made about Dallas, there were 20 more he made that never came about, which no one discusses. I mean really, claiming that such an obvious assassination technique as "a high-powered rifle from an office building" is some sort of foreknowledge of a plot is like saying I'm Nostradamus for predicting the sun will come up in the East tomorrow.

Every Klansman I've ever come across - every.single.one - has claimed to his buddies to be a badass who has committed all manner of murder and mayhem. And lied about virtually every one. It's lies. All of it. These worms are like junior high kids in a locker room, bragging about things they've never done because they think it will make them look big in the eyes of their buddies. (It's a funny thing, and I don't know how to account for it, but I found that somewhere around 1/3 of Klansmen were closeted gays, and many more than that had one or more homosexual experiences, even as adults. Go figure.) Milteer is a braggart. He is incompetent to organize a presidential assassination, and no one would trust him with such information. He no more was involved in Dallas than the man in the moon.

There's another factor here which the reporter places a great deal of stock in: the opinion of the retired FBI agent. I wouldn't put too much money on that horse.

It's a situation much like the blind men who touched various parts of an elephant and then tried to guess what it was they had: one thinks it's a tree because of the legs; one thinks it's a snake, because of the trunk, and so on. The point is, the blind men have such a terribly limited amount of information that they draw horribly mistaken conclusions.

Here we have an agent who was posted to an absolutely tiny field office. I know from experience that agents in those kinds of backwaters spend their careers chasing moonshiners, thieves of interstate cigarette shipments and car dealers who roll back odometers. Their biggest cases are the bank robberies that might come along once ever 6-8 years. They absolutely long to have an important case; something that would natter to history. And I think that is what has happened here.

This agent has based his opinion on what Milteer says, and can corroborate nothing. It's most unfortunate he chose to come out with this, because it misleads the public (see comment above). Federal law enforcement has known about and Milteer's claims for ages...and rejected them because nothing panned out about his claims.

This is nothing but yet more racist juvenile bragging. And is worthless to us today other than as a window to the soul of a Klansman.

carlee333 said...

Oh my gosh. Boo!!! Unless of course you know every single military person who had a high security clearance, and unless of course you knew of every covert op that ever happened in history, and unless of course you had many many confidants that told you their deep dark secrets. A petty officer can have a massively high security clearance and be involved in things his troop know nothing about!!!! If things could be wrapped up in a little tiny package like you put it in, then you would have a point. But, sir, you are clearly discounting all the military and government have been caught doing. You are clearly forgetting about ALL THE OTHER assassinations our beloved leaders have ordered or participated in. Nice speech you wrote, but it doesn't seem to hold up.

Jum said...

I'm having s little trouble deciphering your comment, but the best I can make out, you're attributing comments to me which I most certainly did not make. I said Milteer had nothing to do with the JFK assassination, and gave my reasons for why I said it.

I made no comment whatsoever on whether any military officer or government official may have been involved in or sanctioned that or any other assassination whether here or abroad. Nor did I address any theories about the JFK assassination other than the laughable suggestion that Milteer was involved.

That being the case, I really don't see what your point is.

carlee333 said...

I'm saying that you have no idea what Milteer was involved in, the most despicable untrustworthy people in our world are plucked up the feds all the time, i mean, lol, it still goes on TODAY. So what i'm saying is...you may have known this guy in YOUR capacity for 30 years, but more honorable people than him have kept the horrible secret from their white picket fence family that in reality they are a hired assassin. This isn't fiction, it goes on every day. And yes you did comment on the military official, and what i said was trying to get across was, it doesn't matter if this guy was placed in some puny little office somewhere you think is unimportant....you have no clue what his official capacity was in the military....like I said, a common everyday newbie petty officer could have been (and many are out now admitting what they have been doing behind the scenes in the military)in training for something else long before that, he may be just a petty officer to some, but that doesn't mean that's ALL he was. It doesn't matter where the hell this guy was placed or how small his office was, as someone who worked in the Dept of Justice you above all should know just what is capable of happening behind the scenes. Not all is as you think. The way you word things, no one should even think about researching these claims further. Why??? is the question i want to know.

carlee333 said...

oh, one more thing, federal law enforcement is a joke when it gets to levels that high up. it's corrupt and broken and in many instances has been shown to be just that.

carlee333 said...

Here is Don Adam's radio interview from today...with details, dates, names, etc.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrCLXnZoXO0

J.Griffin said...

I'm going to have to go with Jum.

Jailhouse confessions from sociopathic megalomaniacs
should always be taken with at least a salt shaker or two....

Jum's comments were more about the credibility of such witnesses-
not about the actual truth behind the Kennedy murder.

Most major conspiracy "theories" have serious conflicts
with themselves and each other.

They are easily twisted by certain groups to foster fear,distrust,despair and dissension.

Cops&soldiers are not stupid and just ignorantly following orders,
like they are portrayed in many movies.

They are men(and women)who have taken oaths to protect their communities&nations-
many are standing up against the federal government right now against gun control.

They are taking on much greater risks to themselves,their careers and even their families
than the typical poser hiding behind a keyboard.

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